Edit: Not important.
Because he was trying to kill people. And now that we know it was a 53 year old white man we have people on this forum trying to justify and excuse his actions.
This is my last post on TAN, not a slight at the forum in general or the mods, been growing tired of the intentionally divisive and trolling behavipur of some posters. Not going to spend any more time discussing this club, sport or world with people on the internet. Not worth it.
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Please donât leave. Just a request.
Take a break if you must.
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Take time outâŚsee how you feel in a couple of monthsâŚI sometimes read postsâŚand donât agree, but I just thinkâŚeveryone has an opinion, it might not be the the same as yours, but let em have a say and donât replyâŚif itâs really vitriolic and no-one replies they seem to go quiet or donât post vitriol again.
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I like and respect that, @Wilkored08. One of my Buddhist teachers discusses triggers and reactivity in the form of a flow chart (picture various stages on a page going from left to right). He suggests practicing becoming aware of the trigger and potential reaction earlier and earlier in the process. So hard to do but it does bring peace if and when I manage to. I suppose at the end of the day, any step toward putting out less aggression into the world is positive.
Really hoping all recover physically and mentally from a senseless act. My chest has felt clenched since yesterday.
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This really isnât as bad as it looks to you. Some of us who wrote that it didnât initially look like attemped murder, said this before the police came out with the information about the driver.
Everything is not always what it seems. Perhaps you are right about 1 poster, maybe even 2-3, I donât know. I saw a couple of writing idiotic comments about foreigners and social collapse myself. But I know that multiple of those arguing that it looked like an accident claimed this before information about the driver came out.
I think everyone values you here, so I hope you choose to stay and just take a break. Maybe a long break if you want. But if you want to leave, then I wish you the very best.
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have to, especially in this current fucked up environment we live in now
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Please donât goâŚwe will ban @Alright_Now_Legend instead. But in all seriousness, donât go; then the trolls win. You are such a rational and intelligent voice and much needed on this forum. Donât let the trolls winâŚ
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Made a conscious decision not to read everything here or elsewhere. Was glad to see our forumites who attended all seem to be well though.
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Just leaving Rugby service station back to London. It is pouring down.
Will read this thread and respond in due course when i am home later.
I hope everyone else who went to Liverpool got home safely as well.
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I was reading Tommy Robinsonâs sickening twitter account today, he and his supporters are still insisting it was a Muslim immigrant that did it, and that the police are covering it up. The comments on his thread are vile. They have even doctored photos of the clearly white man in the car to make him look âbrownâ. While others on his thread are saying there are loads of white Muslims, so it doesnât matter that the police are saying he was white British. I really donât understand why these sad racists choose to live life with so much hate and rage inside them. It must be exhausting.
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This is why I want social media to end. Guys like this spout absolute vile nonsense all day and night precisely because they want people like you and me to read it and be outraged/angered. The sooner we pull the plug on facebook/instagram/twitter/threads/bluesky/telegram/mastodon/whateverthefuck the better. An absolute cancer on society.
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Iâve always had an issue with people and their cars .
People have to realise what they are driving is incredibly dangerous and requires behaving in an appropriate manner. Iâve always felt penalties for dangerous driving have to be harsher.
As for the usual fuckwits thatâs why I left Twitter. They arenât worth the oxygen.
I think town should have been more car free yesterday in general. It was massively packed
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Too many people seem to think more about their right of way than thinking the first thing to do is to avoid accidents.
It doesnât matter if the other one is in the wrong. If you can avoid the accident , then avoid it.
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Itâs what I said above, people need to realise what they have is a potential weapon. My Dad has never drank and is probably one of the safest drivers it was odd getting into other peoples cars as I got older and noticing how careless they were compared to him.
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From the Guardianâs report of the Merseyside Police press conf.
Assistant chief constable Jenny Sims begins by thanking witnesses who come forward with information and saying that, prior to incident, hundreds of thousands lined streets to pay tribute to Liverpool FC.
She says more than 50 people were injured and treated at hospital â 11 remain and are stable and recovering well â and that Merseyside police had âworked extensivelyâ to build a robust traffic management plan, including road closures on the route and city centre.
Water Street closed to traffic, she says, and confirms that it is now believed that the driver of a Ford Galaxy was able to follow ambulance after a road block temporarily lifted so that the ambulance crew could attend to a member of the public suspected of having heart attack.
âThere was no intelligence to suggest an event such as this would take place,â she says and adds that the incident is not being treated as terrorism.
The investigation is ongoing and police are asking people not to speculate and to refrain from sharing distressing content online.
Detective Ch Supt Karen Jaundrill is updating on the investigation and says police have arrested a 53-year-old man from the West Derby area of Liverpool.
She says he has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, dangerous driving offences and driving while unfit through drugs. He remains in custody where he is being interviewed.
There were 65 casualties, she says, with specialist officers providing support to the victims of the incident.
Extensive CCTV inquiries are being carried out to establish the movements of the Ford Galaxy car, she says.
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I partially agree with you (I canât stand social media), but on the other hand, it is important to keep track of the Far Right, and how powerful they are becoming. Social Media is one way to do that. The only positive I can see of this huge support that Reform currently has in the UK, is that it might be a catalyst for the Left to finally unite and stop the decades of infighting that we have had to deal with for so long. This is actually something Jeremy Corbyn has recently been calling for.
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Iâm sorry but Corbyn has been part of that, sorry this is going off topic but if Starmer has driven people out of the Labour Party so did Corbyn and good Labour people.
Itâs not the place to talk about this anyhow, also it just amplifies them especially the way X is run nowadays. Social media has actually been the worst thing to happen to the internet.
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