Post Match: Brighton v Liverpool (EPL 28/11/20 12.30pm)

Why not? I don’t get the issue. An offside is a digital decision. It is or it isn’t.

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Are you pretending or have you just not read any of the discussion?

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I’ve smoked a spliff since then so can’t be arsed.

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The issue is digital measurement is beyond the capability of any player in game, so they have no ability to assess whether they are within the law. Doubly, any line is actually an arc :sweat_smile: or rather digital measurement takes us outside of the original purpose for what the offside rule was created for.

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That’s precisely what it is not, hence why it gets discussed in here. If the technology was as clear as goal-line technology, then there would be no issue. It is not though. VAR isn’t a 1/0 decision. It’s largely open to interpretation and also manipulation at this point, especially in the poor PL version of how it gets handled.

But you know that already if you have read the previous posts in this thread, so I really don’t know why you maintain that point.

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In your opinion. Not mine. Or many other people’s it seems.

In my opinion the spectacle of a bunch of jobsworths scouring a freeze frame looking for something, anything, to rule a goal out has made the game much worse.

Furthermore I don’t think this was ever the intention. It was supposed to address clear and obvious errors, not nip-pick over a millimetre here or there. If the Lino fails to spot a striker standing three yards offside that’s what it’s there for. Not to adjudicate if someone eyelash is off.

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Regardless the discussion, he was offside. Sorry, been busy…

And if this decision were to be us against Barca against Messi in the CL final with us 1 up, you’d have the same opinion? I suspect not.

Because from a static camera view at a known point, simple geometry can be employed to measure a players’ exact proximity to goal at the point the ball is played Discussing this at length on a massively biased forum does not alter the facts.

You can’t take the ad populum stance. Well, you can but then you’re on exceedingly shaky ground.

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So if we bring a tolerance into the equation, how do you define the tolerance? How do you measure it? If the’s say a 300mm allowance then that’s measured to the mm. There’s now way (unless anybody has a better idea) of sorting out offsides. A fat bloke with a flag and dodgey eyes sure as shit isn’t the answer.

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That’s assuming that they get that exact moment right and with 50fps they simply cannot say with 100% accuracy that they have nailed down that moment. Using a frame that’s even two hundredths of a second too late translates into the mm’s that they’re trying to convince everyone is infallibly offside. There is a margin of error, pointless trying to justify it or pretending that it isn’t there.

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It’s already been shown above which you’ve ignored completely. A slightly thicker line which if overlaps reverts to linesman’s call. I think that’s a margin of error built in that everyone can live with.

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Wherever you’re coning from, you certainly can’t argue it has made the game a better spectacle.

And that is a damn shame.

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Obtuse is the word that comes to mind.
Strange, for someone who didn’t want to debate it you’re doing a lot of debating.
And if everyone who’s arguing against the millimetric use of VAR got their way you’re hypopathetical (snigger) situation wouldn’t come into play would it?

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But then that margin of error is scrutinised to the mm. That’s the problem. Give him a metre tolerance, that’s then analysed to the n’th degree.

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Well, if obtuse is the best you can do, I’d blame your teachers.

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After smoking another spliff i went and checked the Mane off side,looks tight to me.

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Where did you get the impression it’s the best I can do? Picking on my education? Oh dear, not sure how I’ll get through the day. Maybe read an encyclopedia or two.

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Again, you’re just being silly. If the lines are thicker and they then overlap which the software would absolutely easily be able to detect then the linesman’s call stands. How are overlapping lines going to be scrutinised to the mm.

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Fck me the speed of light isnt even constant.

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