Post match: Crystal Palace v Liverpool (EPL 25/25/23 7.45pm)

I don’t think Salah is the problem by any means, for me it all starts in the midfield. My logic was and is simply that having someone his age on those wages declining dramatically in value by the week makes no sense when it is in front of that midfield. If we were competing for PL/CL silver, yes, it would make perfect sense. But not now. That said, as I noted above, I had no idea how urgent the situation was - in a meeting, I could see myself being persuaded to keep him for one more year to see if Klopp could work one more major trophy out of this side. But with either Mane or Salah, I think we would be more or less in the same place.

I’m a bit more sympathetic to 09/10 actually because I think that was more abrupt. This one felt inevitable seeing as we don’t have a cybernetic XI. There have been signs since 20/21 imo. Mental toughness can only overcome physiology for so long. These guys have insane amounts of miles on them

Never agreed with $350k per week especially with his form at the end of last season

yeah I have no interest in trophies, just in agony and depression.

There are a few clubs that “buy” trophies. They have a better chance to achieve “excellence” and satisfy that population of season ticket holders who also define excellence as trophies.

Over the past 60 years, we’ve experienced the ups and downs. Idk how old you are but I can assure you this “low” is nothing like some previous “lows”. Hope you’ll consider rethinking your position so you’re not in a place of misery.

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I’m assuming the second half was as bad as the first?
Genuinely couldn’t be arsed to watch any more, and didn’t even bother looking for the result until morning

Actually, you caught the good half. Twelve LFC shots in the whole game, and at 58’ 11 of them had already been taken. Almost nothing happened for the last 30 minutes, completely stale play.

If you take out the game against Real, our recent sequence of results is a 2-0 win against Everton, a 2-0 win at Newcastle and now a 0-0 draw at Selhurst Park. It’s not too bad imo, very much top four level. Especially the three clean sheets are encouraging imo.

Of course you are right that our performance levels aren’t at the desired level yet. The main point now is to take points even when we don’t perform at our usual levels until some key players return into the team, or find back their top level.

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Beat Wolves and that’s 10 points from 12. More than acceptable in a top four battle.

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I just wish it weren’t such a big ask of this team right now. The roller coaster of performances remind me of 13/14 when we’d throttle a team 5-1 then dump a 3-0 lead with 20min left.

On reflection, I think this was one of the main issues I had with the game and maybe us overall. There seemed to be no desire or guile to score, the relaxed (boring) approach actually resulted in me being more bothered in work.

Wolves Wednesday is a big game, i feel a bad performance irrelevant of result will leave us very exposed confidence wise. :+1:t2:

Liverpool fielded their oldest starting XI for almost 70 years against Crystal Palace last Saturday. The average age was 29 years and 218 days, compared with 30 years 39 days against Newcastle United in 1953.

Said it several times it’s probably not the one deciding factor but it had me concerned at the beginning.

18 injuries from the start tIl September also didn’t help. Unless something crazy happens I won’t remember it.

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James Milner was the only player to feature in both games.

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To be fair I aged at least 30 years it felt like.