Post match: Inter v Liverpool (CL 16/2/22 8.00pm)

The trouble with managers like Dyche (who I actually rate as a manager) is that they are continually risking the long term for the short term benefit. It’s like gaming the head injuries protocols. Or gaming covid rules. Burnley are likely to go down now, and that’s not because they are one of the bottom three sides in the league - they just aren’t. It’s because they focussed on what they needed in Nov/Dec and didn’t properly consider that they are now faced with having to close the season playing twice a week to catch up, and they are simply not trained to do that.

On the subs, I find it bizarre that managers like Dyche voted against the five subs rule. Of course it benefits the big teams, but then it’s not like clubs like Burnley can compete with fewer subs. And for those teams surely the opportunity to keep players fresh is going to help avoid injuries. Three injuries to key players is going to hurt Burnley more than Liverpool.

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I skip perhaps half of them, depending entirely on my frame of mind. Sometimes I enjoy it as a running sidebar, other times like yesterday I just prefer to focus on the match and don’t even look at it. Sometimes I get so exasperated I change my mind midstream.

I love the match day thread and with Klopp as manager if we are 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go im convinced we are getting a result from the game. :+1:

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So we were playing ok creating chances and making sure Inter had very few chances. Then at half time we replace Jota with Firmino (hope Jota is ok) and … fuck me we lose all momentum Inter start running all over us, Firmino looks like a lost sheep, and start getting all excited expending loads of energy. Then out of the blue Firmino sticks the ball into the back of the good goal. Inter look shagged, what a KO punch, all their excitment evaporates and we trot home happy.
Firmino was real poop yet he’s my hero, it’s so wierd. :crazy_face:
A good away win. I think Klopp got the subs spot on except Firmino, oh wait perhaps he had that 2nd half all planned, who knows but the man himself?
I just love it when in the KO stages we finish them off with a knock out punch in the dying minutes. I’m all in a big sweat thinking wtf are we doing then it all finishes with a breeze.
This tie should be over with a 3-0 win for the home leg! :smiley:

I miss a lot of the match day threads if I am working and watching a recording later. When I do see them, I take it all with a pinch of salt… highly charged fans, spewing their exaggerated fears and concerns into a match day thread, probably overdoing the despair if it isn’t going well momentarily, seeing their arses with each other from time to time…

I hate to think what it was like on the inter web when we were finishing around 6th or something for a few years!

Yeah I tend to avoid the match threads during the game as I’ve found myself missing stuff from the game while scrolling commentary or typing a response. Instead I usually check in before the game and often look in at HT.

I’m a psychologist. Would never judge someone’s personality without meeting them. I think Trent’s performances have raised our expectations to crazy levels. He was the best RB in the world when he was only out of his teens. If he has an average game then people seem to get on him, criticising his defence for not being as good as his attack, forgetting that he (and the coaching staff) have literally created a new way of playing full back

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I do understand to an extent. Yes, it looked good for our bench last night. But when Minamino was our best attacking option and City had Mahrez, Aguero, Sterling and Silva all on their bench it gives a different perspective.

But yes this is short-term thinking as you say.

Yep, not to mention judging personality esp something like ‘arrogance’ based on demeanor is crazy. If anything can be inferred from what’s in the public domain, then Trent strikes me as far less ‘arrogant’ than many other elite young footballers. Quiet steely internal confidence in your ability and the determination to do whatever is necessary to reach your goals is a key quality in an elite athlete. Arrogance causes problems when it tends to manifest in a loud external projection of confidence that may in fact be a mask for either low internal confidence or lack of determination. I don’t see this much evidence for this in Trent.

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Wasn’t that when we won the league…

Hopefully it doesn’t matter because he will have managed them down to the Championship

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I was quite clear in where I came from, and it’s from the peaks and troughs of a competative person. So I don’t think it’s any sort of projection to mask.

I actually work with someone who knew his mum and him since he was 6 going through the academy. Both of them were labelled a little bit arrogant back then.

Anyway, not going to get in a circular around a word. I don’t deem calling someone arrogant an insult at all.

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It was all absolutely fine. Until somebody criticised Lucas

War Mcr GIF by My Chemical Romance

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He is now out of his teens and now has set the standards we expect from him, so yes you can criticise someone when they are jogging back rather than busting a gut, or crossing it aimlessly into the box 15 times over and over. Small examples of 1 game out of 10. Doesn’t mean he’s not one of the first names on the team sheet though.

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I didn’t see Trent being lazy to be honest, thought he tried to recover as well as he could in every situation. Perisic is a good player who was given some space because of the way Trent plays but he didn’t hurt us much.

I didn’t think he played badly, but then apparently Robertson and Mane were poor as well and I didn’t see that either.

It’s worth reiterating, Inter played their hearts out and had 0 shots on target on their own turf. We really weren’t that bad at all.

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I think people remember the negatives of the first half and the Inter pressure at the beginning of the second rather than our thoroughly professional performance. 0-0 away from home against a good team who played well (and really tried) with a raucous home crowd would have been a decent result.

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After the way that match went last night, can you imagine being any of those Inter players knowing you have already given it your all against the boys… to have to summon up the energy and enthusiasm to try and win by three goals at Anfield… They were really up for it last night and still couldn’t score… deep down they will know that

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There was one occasion where he got rollicking from Big Virg, when he had a good starting position and didn’t then track the run, but overall he does work hard, which is required in his role

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On reflection

I would say it was impressive yesterday, a solid defence that conceded one chance.

Dealt with their set pieces really well.

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