I’ve named 4 challenges above, where they should have been treated with a heavier hand - 2 in our favour and two against us. Are there other examples this season?
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We don’t really have to flip much further in the filing cabinet beyond Salah, Mo (challenges on).
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Actually a few of us thought it should have been a red I even think Fab did
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Anyway, here a few of the top of my head.
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Rodri getting away with a shirt pull and cynical foul seconds after receiving a yellow for a similar offence. The score is 1-1 at the time and Rodri goes on to play a pivotal role in City running away with the game in the second half. Liverpool are instead charged with failing to control their players.
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Gabriel handles the ball in the box against Arsenal at the Emirates with an outstretched arm. Dermot Gallagher ‘surprised’ it wasn’t given. It is incredibly similar to a pen given in the Brentford v Newcastle game the day before.
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this not given as a pen
https://twitter.com/lfcmumble/status/1591476698494672898?s=21
- Salah bear hugged in the box against Arsenal. No pen.
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I felt sorry for Mane when he played for us he was kicked black and blue and got bugger all and Mo is now getting Mane’s share as well.
I was chatting to my physio a couple of hours ago about this and he said why is it that they don’t get fouls called for them, initially I said racism, but then actually said nationalism, they aren’t English.
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Do you really think that’s a clear pen there on Mo Mascot?
I’d be furious if that was given against us, actually think the 1 we got at Fulham was more of a pen & I think Thiago’s handball against West Ham at the end which wasn’t given was more.
There is a tendency which does come from favouritism to only highlight contentious decisions that go against you and never for you (goes the same for every fan base) whilst also not acknowledging any other poor decisions that are made in other games not involving Liverpool.
It would be on Rashford or Kane.
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That really is my point though, it’s not as though Newcastle or United have proven that they have been good enough over the whole season either. It’s just that we as fans tend to focus a lot more on our own teams and so see the shortcomings a lot clearer.
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You’ve evaded the question though.
Is it a clear and cut pen like say the Jota handball v Arsenal that wasn’t give, the Jota v Bournemouth that was, the Ibou on Watkins that was, the foul on Gakpo against Spurs that was.
To me it looks way too soft to be given, in real time anyway.
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Just another biased cunt from the PGMOL 
Think you just haven’t paid attention to it, to be honest. Plenty of comments from them saying how particular decisions were indefensible.
I really don’t want this to go on tit for tat as I don’t think it’s possible for either of us to move our positions on this. But I totally agree on the Rodri one. Said in the post match there was no excuse for him to remain on the field.
Don’t agree on either of the Arsenal ones. I mentioned why I didn’t agree with the handball in the post match and how I don’t think it should be compared to the Newcastle one, and I think there is minimal if any contact on Salah for that penalty. Correct to wave that away IMO.
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Except by refusing to give free kicks or bookings when the opposition commit fouls with “physicality”. Or denying blatant penalties.
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You always seem to be arguing for the opposition for some strange reason, are you sure you are on the right forum. 
This is the passage of the rule that I think is just poorly thought out. Is ‘limited contact/control’ cover all instances of deliberately playing the ball, but not doing it well? I am not sure that it is meant to, the intent of the rule is to avoid the situation where an attacking player plays the ball off a defender to put the play onside. But frustrating as it is, it is hard for me to get too irate at a judgement based around this rule.
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The intent of the rule is to prevent an attacker being able to benefit in an offside position from a defender simply defending.
The rule, as is commonly the case, is not written to be colloquially understood, but to be understood in the context of referee language. In this case, deliberate doesn’t refer to touching the ball in any capacity, but in the capacity of having been in possession. Remember this disallowed goal?
No one is arguing this was an inadvertent deflection rather than a deliberate attempt to header the ball, and they aren’t because it simply relevant to the interpretation. Instead the consideration is whether the header, something done under pressure from a france player, is a defensive action, and a deliberate touch after being in possession. Most crosses will be treated as a defensive play rather than a “deliberate” play unless the ball has come in from far enough away and is played under no pressure from another attacker such that he the defender might be reasonably expected to consider himself in possession on his first touch
Definitely agree about heading the ball - but that rule change was in fact made to cover precisely the case of playing it off a defender. I am just not sure that the intent was possession being the deciding factor.
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From Rambler? From Sport Billy? From GonneKloppo? Ok I’ll read harder.
We’ve just got TheAllMightyReds arguing against Mo getting decisions when it’s been 100% statistcally proven, not only does he not get decisiones, he is as an outlier as you can get. No one is anywhere near him.
Anyway, all us who think we get shafted by refs and their association on a regular basis have our tin foil hats on.
That Fabinho tackle was a defo red by the way but one swallow a summer does not make.
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Way I see it is it should have been given because it really isn’t massively clear it was done deliberately or not, to me he changes his leg shape so for me he does do it deliberately however if you are in two minds about it, stay with the onfield decision.
Cricket is that way so should football.
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Of course it’s a clear pen. That Arsenal player gets no where near the ball at anytime, yet is manhandling Salah until he pulls him down. If there are examples in that game of more clear cut pens that were not given then that doesn’t favour your argument you know?
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