I’m really suprised that we didn’t freshen up our forward line this summer.
I remember Joyce last summer saying he expects a change as front lines don’t tend to play together for 5 years.
Maybe it’s down to covid they are still here but we do need to freshen it up now as much as I love the front 3 and all they have done for us.
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It was absolutely a penalty. Look at the way his arm moves towards the ball.
As it was a penalty it had to be a red card.
I don’t know why anyone would even discuss it.
Stonewall.
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Seen them not given and less obvious ones given.
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Ok, against my better judgement I will bite at this. Maybe you are on the wind up?
James moves his arm to the ball to block it. Maybe instinctive but he blocks a goal with his arm. There is no other outcome possible than penalty and red card.
Taylor HAS to give it. He isn’t known for “helping” Liverpool in the past, but when he saw the monitor he knew there was no wriggle room on this.
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I didn’t say it wasn’t a penalty.
You said “by no means a stonewall penalty and red card”…it was the most obvious example of both you could see. Missed by Taylor (surprise) and correctly called by VAR.
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I didn’t watch anything post match yesterday or Match of the Day last night because I expected that sort of drivel from the fawning pundits. I can’t listen to it.
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Elliott was the MOTM for me. He was outstanding. Rarely put a foot wrong. Would love to see him paired more with Thiago out there.
But our midfielders were not a problem for me today. Hendo made lots of smart decisions. Fab is the best option we have at the 6. Thiago might have been a better choice, but it would have taken a very good performance from him to do so because the midfielders we had out there were good.
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No it wasn’t, not by a long way. I can’t be arsed posting pics of more obvious hand balls as anybody who’s ever watched football can imagine. Did every very obvious decision go our way last season when referred to VAR? No. That’s my point.
Way I see it is this, others will drop points against them as well as Chelsea against others. It makes those other home games more important as well as the away form as well.
11 vs 11 and I don’t think many would be that bothered, some teams just roll over at 10, happens 2 minutes after half time than two minutes before they probably do.
As I said yesterday in the morning I’ll be a bit more chipper about it and I am, I do feel we should be looking for back up/starter in that forward line mind. But that’s up to Klopp.
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I love the kid but what exactly did he do that made him MOTM
He didnt score or assist he played a nice neat game but down the stretch when it mattered he just handed the ball off to anyone other than himself because he didnt want the responsibility.
Like I said I love the kid but how anyone could see him as best afield i can’t understand. Seems like people just want to big him up and I get that too he is a massive prospect but he was tired and was essentially hiding in the last 15 mins. Completely to be expected of an 18 year old in that situation but that is why he should have been subbed for Keita or Ox or brought on as an impact sub for the last 20/25 mins.
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As for Firmino it might be hamstring but you don’t jog off like that on a tear, may miss Leeds but beyond that I think he will be ok.
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Chelsea’s “defensive masterclass” came about because we lost our head in the second half. They defended well but they would have conceded if we had pressured them for longer than 10 minutes. Instead we backed off. Lost intensity, focus and started making poor decision after poor decision. We even allowed them to look dangerous even though they were committing at most 3 to 4 players on their counterattacks. Which brings me to another point that we defended their counterattacking poorly throughout the game. There are extenuating circumstances with Fabinho not being up to speed but still it wasn’t good enough. Their goal was really bad too. Havertz is left unmarked from the beginning and makes his run unimpeded.
Overall there were too many errors and poor performances against an opponent of this calibre. Not that it was all bad. We were pretty good for 60 minutes and you get the sense that while Chelsea were close to their best we were far from it. But the last half hour against a team down a man, at Anfield no less, was disappointing to say the least. Expected and hoped for much better.
Finally, as it has been repeatedly pointed out, the team needs an addition to the forward line. We virtually have 4 bodies for 3 positions and that’s assuming that all of them are fit and in form. Firmino just did his hamstring in his first start of the season and Mane looks like he picked up from where he left off last season.
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It was.
And yesterdays decision doesn’t nearly register in the poor decisions against us.
If it was even 10/90 in our favour Taylor would have baulked.
So, you are wrong. And thats from someone who watches football.
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Starting with Elliot and leaving him on for the full 90 was the biggest kick up the arse to OX and Keita that Jurgen could have delivered… Maybe he has tried every other tactic to spark some life into these two. Maybe, it is actually time as fans, we have something to compare them against…!
We needed a spark from somewhere yesterday to grab the three points from this game… playing against ten men in the second half, it is not the eleven on the pitch we should be glaring at for running out of ideas… it is the two mentioned here that should carry the wrath, because hiding on the bench, and that is what they are doing, hiding because when they have been given a playing opportunity… they haven’t exactly busted a gut to cement that place as their own…
Sell both of them is what I say as they obviously can not be called upon to help the LFC cause.
i hope you keep that same energy for sadio mane. He is trending in that direction.
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You think that was the most obvious example of a handball?
Agreed and it wasn’t the only time. Matip was getting ripped a new one on a number of occassions. Also even when Fabs was back there he didn’t even try to slow the counter down.
When chelsea countered our defense backed off quicker than our midfield could recover. Then again the one time Matip tried an intervention he looked worst than Lovren.
Our defending on counters really dissappointed me and I felt change is needed.
It was an obvious handball, penalty and red card.
Any doubt and Taylor wouldn’t have made the decision that he did.
Your opinion, and that is just what it is, an opinion in this instance is flawed, your contention that it wasn’t a stonewall penalty is staggering from a guy that ‘watches football’.
All other debate on whether we would have got the decision last year is superfluous.
In this instance its as ‘stonewall’ as you can get.
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You said it’s the most obvious example. That’s demonstrable nonsense as catching the ball and running out of the area with it would be far, far more obvious.
And to your latter point, what else can we use to assess the likelihood of a VAR decision being correct but historical presidencies and experience? As superfluous as the stonewalliness of the penalty.
Language is correct by usage, honest.