Post match: Liverpool v Chelsea (EPL 4/3/21 8.15pm)

I don’t really care if Salah and Mane get on or not. Tommy Smith and Emlyn Hughes hated each other! It doesn’t matter and shouldn’t have any bearing on the job getting done.
In my previous occupation, plenty of people didn’t get on with each other but the job still got done.

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Maybe we should put those two bitches in a cage and let them fight.

Ok we can not afford more injuries so no punching and no kicking.

Maybe some Olympic Wrestling and trying to choke your opponent out.

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Yesterday we were toothless. One soft shot on net. The players showed no desire to fight with the
exception of one or two. Thiago a great player has become an ordinary player since joining LFC.
Our midfield is too weak. Hendo is the spine of our midfield as VVD is for our defence. Firmino
has been very poor for months now. I don’t know why he hasn’t been drop.
I don’t know what needs to be change but that’s up to Klopp to come up with something pretty soon.

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And our second choice CBs, and at times our third choice CBs, and our captain, and a lot of midfielders, and our most in-form striker who just comes back now.

Honestly, the injuries explain the 95% of what’s happening to us right now.

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FFS

It’s incredibly difficult to press Chelsea as I mentioned before. They are technically good enough to bypass it and their system means once they make one pass past the press your CBs are completely exposed. We should have seen that and sat back a bit more with just Bobby pressing their 2 DM pivots. Tactically naive from us imo as Chelsea can defend 0-1 leads.

The worst thing about today is to sit and listen to a Chelsea fan blabbering about last night’s game for the whole first half of the day, at work.

Idiot couldn’t stop saying how it was their best performance in a long time, how Var has been so nice to them always but called Werner offside.And if this wasn’t enuf…he started sending me BBC links for articles saying how we are making a mockery of being champions.
Twat !!

I can’t bear another 4 hours of this…so will pretend my network’s blown.

Just hoping somehow we sort this…No point doing root cause analysis. We all know the problems…I just hope Boss thows a bit of caution out the wind , I won’t mind conceding 3 goals each game , as long as we score 4 …these 1-0 losses hurt even more…more so at Anfield.

Just hope we finish around top 8 atleast. At this rate we will finish closer to teams being relegated than at top and then it will become very hard for people to only blame injuries and VAR.

Questions will then be asked of players sadly and the buck eventually stops at Boss, I am afraid Boss will have to face criticism, as some standards will be expected out of a team who has been champions of england, europe and the world.

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TBF the players aren’t helping him. I would hazard that the training and what they are doing during it is a bigger problem than the tactics. Also he refuses to put public pressure on his favorites, Gini and Bobby effectively yet will upset younger players with little hesitation.

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True however top professionals should be able to step it up. It feels like they have given up on the EPL (ok it’s said we can not win it but let’s at least finish respectably) and are now just looking at the CL.

There goes our last fit CB. This is so so crazy…

Maybe it’s a sign: scrap the idea of CBs, and replace them with midfielders. It worked with Hendo and Fab in there before they got their injuries.

(On the other hand, who plays then in midfield? :cold_face:)

Edit: fortunately, Nat and Davies are back. Phew… :sweat_smile: But without much training before the match. Bah…

It’s a minor problem and is a doubt for only the next game. On the flip side we might get to see a lad in Davies who is ready to go through a brick wall for this shirt, as he knows he will never get a chance like this in his life. And, who knows we might get lucky !!
I was never in favor of replacing midfielders with CB, because then not only you have changed the last line, but more importantly the engine room aka midfield.

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I agree with everything you said, but it doesn’t matter, we should be having shots on target, converting the chances and pressing like hell regardless…
I’d highlight the missed chance by Mane who miscalculated the timing and saw the ball tangled between his legs instead of timing it for a shot/goal as far more significant than the ones you mentioned.

Also, that would have been 1-0 to us, and the game would have proceeded on different terms from that moment on.

Did you see Michael Owen’s comments about Mane intentionally not going down cos he doesn’t want Salah to score the penalty?

Summary

:poop:

Owen is a sinister idiot as we all already know. Nothing new here.

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There was a nice post game analysis of situations where we pressed without following up the way we did last year. It wasn’t nuclear science, just simply easy to see that we weren’t suffocating them and that it had less to do with Chelsea’s good passing than with our tendency to not follow up and suffocate the way we’d normally do.

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Seriously…

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It’s just not possible to press effectively 2 very deep pivots without exposing yourselves, it really isn’t rocket science and really doesn’t need analysis. Our press was energetic but that’s all you can say about it and all you can do against that Chelsea system that has pretty good technical ability.

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Everyone is fixated on our current abysmal form and offering crazy theories on why we are struggling so badly and what needs to be done.
It’s pretty simple really. Next season we need to get our best players back on the pitch, hopefully fit and refreshed and playing in their specialist position. If we can do that I think we will see a proper Liverpool team rather than the knackered, patched-up, square peg in round hole team we’ve seen for most of this season. If the same problems persist then we’re in big fucking trouble.

What has that got to do with Mascot’s post I hear you all ask?!!

I’ll tell you. The biggest problem this club faces moving forward is the bend-over-and-take-it approach it’s adopted for as long as I can remember. We are a spineless club. Gutless. Easily bullied in any number of ways. Cowardly.
The docile acceptance by our players to the various shite decisions, assaults and general shithousery they’ve been subjected to is the visible face of a much greater problem.
Until this club grows a fucking backbone and learns to stand up for itself both on and off the pitch then nothing will change. They’ve done a good job on us this season. It could set us back years. It might be something we don’t recover from for a long, long time. And it’s all been done without any fear of recriminations or being called out for the fucking cheats they are.
Make no mistake, our failure to address this problem is a far greater threat to our future prosperity than the shambolic but completely explainable performances we’ve seen the past couple of months.
As ever I wont be holding my breath.

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I do agree that Chelsea had a well drilled way to pass-around-the-press. No argue about that.
But I’d be curious to see what you have to say after you see that post game bit (sky). What I meant by not nuclear science is that it was not so much an analysis (as you say too that it’s not needed) but rather plain simple to see once shown…we seemed to press with intensity, but it wasn’t the team pressing and the follow-up pressing that we were doing last season (or in rare occasions this season).
If you get the chance, check it and get back mate.

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It does matter. If players won’t rely round a team mate when has a ball blammed at his head why would they work for each other in a sporting sense?

Chelsea didn’t only look better than us last night, they also looked more together as a team than us.

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