Its like you’re heart sinks to the pit of your stomach, you don’t want to watch any LFC football(replays etc.)… You feel sick hearing about more injuries…you just want The Reds to win, get back to our winning ways…I know it must be hard, with all the injuries…that’s how it feels at the moment…but never ever will I stop loving/supporting this wonderful team…COYR.
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… or to use an analogy. If you tossed a coin 12 times in a row and it came up heads each time would you think, wow what an amazing coincidence, twelve heads in a row !!! … or … would you think there’s something seriously wrong with this coin?
Note, the odds of getting just ten heads in a row is .0009 and twelve in a row is statistically impossible, unless the coin is biased.
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…by which I mean of course the odds of getting key (millimeter) decisions always appearing to go against you in VAR reviews and dodgy penalty decisions. Eventually, you have to conclude that certain refs/officials just don’t like you. We never seem to have these issues when we play in CL
Mancs won PL after PL with Fergie time, top of penno charts, never having refs who presided over a Manc loss back to OT etc etc. … but they couldn’t win the CL and couldn’t bully the officials the way they did in EPL.
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Delboy had a coin like that.
I like the cut of your jib.
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you know it makes sense RedOpium !!
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Just reading now that CLATTENBERG and Dermot Gallagher are saying that Trent should have been sent off after the foul for the penalty. The game is fu**ed.
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Either they haven’t played a lick of football in their life and they don’t know that there was nothing that TAA could do to avoid contact once he had gone to ground or they are biased cunts.
My money is on both.
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The fact TAA didn’t vanish into thin air meant he was extremely lucky he didn’t sent off,
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It’s 1970’s East Germany style propaganda. So you go from thinking we’ve been shafted again to thinking “fucking hell, we were lucky there, Trent could have been sent off and banned”.
I’m still at a loss as to how that’s a penalty.
If it is then surely an attacker can just charge into a stationary defender at a corner and claim he was attempting to get to the ball? Wouldn’t that be a penalty?
Or when a defender is shielding the ball out for a goal-kick the attacker should barge into him and claim a penalty because he was trying to get to the ball?
The whole thing is fucking nonsense.
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The decision on Saturday has underpinned all my previous beliefs. It is just criminal in its injustice.
Would we have levelled or won? We will never know, but the second goal fucked us royally.
It really is that brutally unavoidably true.
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But don’t you know? He raised his foot right at the end.
I know the foot didn’t touch the Everton player, but it was still raised and could have done some serious damage.
We’re kinda lucky Nat stayed on the park as well to be honest, he was lurking and if you look closely at his facial expression you can see his intention was to decapitate Richarlison in the very next phase of play. And as we all know, it’s the intent that should be punished.
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The FA could openly come out and say in the media that it has a clear agenda against this club and it’s referees have been advised to make sure the club gets the rough end of the stick during matches, yet some would still see nothing wrong and keep their heads buried firmly in the sand. Twattenberg already came out and admitted to bias towards Man United, yet some still believe it would be impossible for them to have bias against Liverpool?! How anyone could honestly believe the old incompetent racist cunts who run the FA, could never have a grudge against a particular city or club, especially one that has been battling against it for decades is beyond comprehension.
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Interesting point about our performances dropping when Thiago came in, they also dropped when Matip got injured the first time, he returned against Burnley which was one of our better losses, played half against Spurs we then beat WHU with Phillips.
I would say Fabinho and Matip injuries to a certain extent have been the reasons once VVD and Gomez went, Hendo was never a CB in my view and once Kabak and Davies arrived should never have played there.
I wouldn’t be against him starting Fabinho back there but I think we need to look at 2 of the 3 defenders we have now playing at the back and Fabinho who hopefully will be back this weekend or next week will start in midfield, he will add another layer to defence and if not help us nesscarily in attack we might actually go longer into games with it 0-0 and a chance to Nick it ourselves.
On reflection we played better in this game but conceding after 3 minutes basically destroyed all the positives from Wednesday, the penalty was never a penalty it may have mattered it may not, I sadly feel it wouldn’t have a goal back would have quite rightly at least answered that.
I will say our last 3 since City have been better and if they had come against the lesser sides may have resulted in points, but without some returning next Sunday I do fear this is going continue.
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Does anyone have the quote for Clattenburg and Gallagher verdicts on the penalty, If they have any explanation why it is a penalty? I mean I just don’t get how Trent fouls Calvert Lewin there, but nowadays the rules are renewed almost after every season. I don’t know if there is a rule that somehow makes Trent guilty by just being there infront of Calvert Lewin.
I suppose the question is can you have an “accidental” foul?
This is a hypothetical question and not specifically about that incident. If by slipping over, I stop you possibly scoring is that a foul or not?
Everyone apart from most Liverpool fans seem to agree it was a penalty. This is where I believe they should have a spokesman who either explains the particular law or the interpretation they applied.
EDIT…found this on IFAB
However, players committing accidental fouls that deny a goalscoring chance will now be cautioned instead.
Was Trent booked then?
It does seem unfair that you can be booked for slipping over though…
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The Gallagher quote is on Sky Sports App. He does a piece every Monday regarding officials controversial decisions whether they are right or wrong. He 99% of the time backs their decisions with quite farcical comments. Clattenbergs quote was on the Echo online.
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The conversations I’ve had with people saying it was a penalty all go down the line of, well if you read the rules yes its a penno, lucky he wasn’t sent.
Funny, none of these people answer my questions - do you think it was a penalty? if it was against your team, what would you think?
No one can assemble a B&Q wardrobe without having the details it explained to them…
It has got to the stage that no one can understand these confusing football rules anymore without having them explained to them either.
Why can’t stars in their eyes Mr.Burns AKA Mike Riley be held accountable to explain why decisions were actually made… Hear it from the horses mouth so to to speak
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For me we should hear what the referee’s say and conversations with the VAR official. That would bring clarity to where the decisions are coming from but also expose them for being utterly incompetent. There must also be some onus on the referee (every decision must stay with the on field referee IMO) to explain their thinking with VAR and consensus agreed between the two. Actually the lines person should also be involved in that conversation.
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