Post match: Liverpool v Man City (EPL 1/12/24 4pm)

Woohoo, if someone had offered me to be nine points in the clear at this stage of the season, and eleven points in front of the oil cheaters, I’d obviously have bitten his or her arm off!

11 wins, one draw, one loss. Second-best attack of the league (it should be more, but our strikers tend to miss many chances these days). Best defence by a country mile. The consistency has been incredible so far. Long may that continue!

However, it’s still early days. Slightly more than one third of the league is played, and Cheaty have shown how quickly you can go from being top to eleven points behind. I dearly hope that injuries will remain reasonable for us going forward, as we near the busiest part of the season in the league.

For now, the lads need to do the same than until now: focus on the next match, work hard, and deliver the goods. They must really enjoy themselves right now! :+1:

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Prior to the game I was very worried about Gomez partnering VVD, but i needn’t have been. Thought he was excellent today and for someone with very few minutes, he slotted in brilliantly.

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Me too. If you can’t enjoy a mad striker running around smashing into Manc twats then football’s not for you!

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I hope Bernado Silva found his cornflakes to be a bit stale this morning.

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Well I thought that the “sacked in the morning”/holding up six fingers thing was just a bit of fun banter, from the Liverpool fans perspective it is clearly a joke we all know he is not going to get sacked and we all know eventually City will start winning again. Guardiola is entitled to have a pop back, all fair.

I just saw that he continued to do it after full time and long after Liverpool fans were interested in singing about him. Now I’ve multiple comments by City players saying they didn’t like it, insulting the city and Pep himself came out to whinge about it after the game.

I probably shouldn’t be suprised but I was, honestly, that they’re being such petulant little bitches about it all. If you don’t want to have someone sing “Sacked in the morning” about your manager then guess what you can do? Win! You lose and it is fair game.

In the game I noticed that Man City used the injury to Foden just after our goal to reset as a team, push Akandji more into midfield and it caused us problems.

Their press began to work and they were getting more possession - this is to be expected against a team with a lot of winning know-how as they have in their team. However I also noticed that some players really weren’t contributing for them: Foden himself looked a million miles off the pace and I really question whether he is not someone who would benefit from hearing a different voice than Guardiola’s.

Most obviously not pulling their weight though was Haaland. Obviously when you sign Haaland you know you are getting a goalscorer and nothing else but it was especially pronounced when the veterans of the team are trying to claw their way back in and they have to do so without anyone leading the press from the front. He looked slow, he looked weak but even more shockingly was that he looked tactically idiotic - he’s got van Dijk and Gomez at CB and he picked to play 1v1 against van Dijk all afternoon, utterly bizarre. Gomez had an absolute stroll in the park all game just mopping up and never under pressure.

What most defenders do against Haaland is try and not let him intimidate them, treat him as a “normal” CF and play how they would against anyone else - which creates situations Haaland dominates 1v1 at the back post against smaller FBs. What van Dijk did is treat Haaland as the only attacking threat for Man City, because he is. Anytime the ball went wide, van Dijk watched Haaland, not the ball, to make sure he didn’t get a run on the back post. The moment the cross came in van Dijk would attack it and get there before Haaland could. Pretty simple but world class defending. It is shocking to me that Haaland either decided to keep trying against van Dijk because he didn’t realise how well the Dutchman was handling him or that he got into his own ego and refused to give up trying to beat him - whichever way it was it turned into completely nulifying any threat Man City had.

Guardiola signed himself a problem when he bought Haaland, for all the goals his style simply doesn’t suit what Guardiola wants to do, now after watching out game yesterday I’m beginning to think that mentally he isn’t intelligent enough to do what is best for the team he is too selfish, too absorbed in himself to even consider anything else. He’s a massive, massive problem for them.

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… and he’s ugly.

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… and he is better underwater than he is on land

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… and he smells.

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Gawd…he’s really lacking in good looks

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The best part was Virg laughing at him. Total domination and didn’t even get out of 3rd gear. Best CB in the world. No one in recent times comes close

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Shittest pun of the season award goes to Flashscore.

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Missed the entire game due to daughters match, being dragged round Xmas market in the rain and then dinner in a village pub…

Heard we smashed it.

Will be interesting to see if our form dips if/when VVD, TAA and Mo sign pre-agreement contracts with new teams in Jan…

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Every silver lining has a cloud :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

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I’d say you were a ball of fun yesterday at 4 pm…

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Every one recently is about the Slot machine paying out so this is at least a change.

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Thanks for keeping it brief…

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‘Nobody realised just how’ - media praise ‘ferocious’ Liverpool as Man City ‘shoved into the abyss’

How the national media reacted to Liverpool’s 2-0 win over Manchester City in the Premier League on Sunday afternoon

There are wins, and there are wins. And Liverpool certainly enjoyed one of the latter as they opened up a nine-point lead at the Premier League summit with a 2-0 dismissal of champions Manchester City at home on Sunday afternoon.

Cody Gakpo struck early on and Mohamed Salah converted a penalty in the second half as the Reds dominated their opponents to secure an 18th win in 20 games under new head coach Arne Slot this season.

Writing in The Times, Paul Joyce - formerly of this parish - pointed to the tribute paid to Liverpool’s new head coach from the Anfield crowd.

“It has been quite the week for head coach Arne Slot, with Real Madrid vanquished in the Champions League in midweek and now City scorched by a team who have come to resemble a ferocious winning machine,” he says.

"It was right that Slot’s name reverberated around Anfield after the final whistle. Liverpool should celebrate what they have in the Dutchman whose eye for detail has nursed 18 wins and a draw from his 20 matches and overseen a remarkable level of consistency.

“The gap, at times, resembled a gulf. Liverpool were superior in all departments; the athletic midfield of Ryan Gravenberch, Alexis Mac Allister and Dominik Szoboszlai ran roughshod over their opponents, the attack, with Salah scoring and assisting for the 36th occasion to match Wayne Rooney’s record in the Premier League, was threatening where Erling Haaland was anonymous and the defence barely put a foot out of place. While City looked frazzled, Liverpool dazzled.”

Richard Jolly of the Independent believes there is nobody better than Liverpool in England at present.

“City were battered before they were beaten,” he pens. "Not by Guardiola’s greatest rival, either, but by a newcomer to this fixture. Jurgen Klopp had the bravery to attack City: others overcame Guardiola’s team by ambushing them, whereas Liverpool assaulted them.

"Arne Slot adopted a similar approach. Liverpool began at a ferocious pace; some of City’s players, ageing before our eyes, lack pace. Liverpool pulled clear when the game grew more open after they came on.

“They have beaten Real Madrid and Manchester City in five days, the sides who, a few weeks ago, could uncontroversially be called the finest in the world. But with every game it becomes clearer: Liverpool are now the best team in the land.”

In the Guardian, Jonathan Liew pointed to the three players who are approaching the end of their Liverpool contracts being among the best performers on the day.

“Perhaps the ultimate measure of the standards Manchester City have set over the past four seasons was what happened when they briefly let those standards slip,” he scribes. "Nobody noticed how fast the Titanic was going until it stopped. Nobody realised just how bloodthirsty the chasing pack was until it finally found something to devour. And on a riotous Anfield afternoon, it was Liverpool who came to eat.

"For Arne Slot, it helps that the messages are still fresh, that the structures are already drilled and honed, that he inherited a squad finely balanced between experience and youth, that he is so clearly prepared to change what does not work (the Brighton and Bayer Leverkusen games the clearest examples of this), that this team is so clearly a meritocracy.

“It helps, too, that there are leaders in the dressing room who can feel their own careers sharpening to a point. Perhaps it was not simply coincidence that Salah, Alexander-Arnold and Virgil van Dijk were probably Liverpool’s three best players here. All of their contracts are up in the summer. Salah has already started taking his shirt off a lot more when he scores, which is a clear statement of intent to potential suitors. Right now, it feels odds against that all three will still be at the club next season.”

Oliver Holt of the Daily Mail was another to be greatly impressed by the overall Liverpool performance.

“City deserved their defeat,” he writes. "They looked, once again, a shadow of the team they once were. And Liverpool deserved their victory. They were magnificent against the team that thwarted their ambitions so often during the Jurgen Klopp era.

"City look like a team on the edge of a precipice. Liverpool look like the team most likely to shove them into the abyss.

“Liverpool were brilliant to watch. They commanded the game from start to finish. They were better in every department. They were more hungry than City. They were quicker, sharper, more clever, more accomplished on the ball and more effective off it. Their appointment of Arne Slot to replace Klopp looks more and more like a masterstroke. Not much could have gone better for them.”

And in the ECHO, our very own Paul Gorst believes it might be time for Liverpool fans to start dreaming.

“The member of staff at the Premier League who engraves names on trophies might not be on standby just yet, but those at Liverpool could quietly be checking to see if they are still on the same phone number as 2020,” he says.

"Eleven points clear now of a Manchester City side who are at their lowest-ever ebb under Pep Guardiola, the stars could just be aligning for Arne Slot in his maiden campaign in English football. Could they really go on and win this title now?

“There’s a lot of football to be played before Slot himself will start truly believing the hype, but how could supporters - even this set; so often burned by false dawns, near fails and close calls - not allow themselves a daydream or two now?”

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Until that trophy is in VVDs hands I wont be allowing myself to think we are going to be champions and its obvious Slot will be telling the players this.

The media cannot wait for us to drop points.

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It’s more about our game plan. Gomez stays back as cover, while VVD engages aggressively in duels. I think this is the most aggressive game I’ve ever seen from VVD

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But Haaland could have decided to come over and play in the Trent-Gomez channel instead of directly up against van Dijk - he didn’t do it.