Post Match: Liverpool v Man Utd (EPL 5/3/23 4.30pm)

I love the fact that 7 features 3 times in that post. Wouldn’t it be lovely to win number 7 this season? :pray::crossed_fingers::nerd_face:

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Don’t know if it’s been mentioned already but it’s just struck me that Martinez joined an elite group on Sunday of WC winners who endured a 7-0 dry-bumming at Anfield a couple of months later.

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What a game! One of the very best I’ve ever seen.

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Who else is in the group?

Man U official account just said “Full time” at the end and didn’t update the score :rofl:

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Just read that ETH(ESH) thinks Gnasher is an inspiration to his team…is he joking?..is he taking the mess?..his he for real?..or is he just living in la la land???

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Also, if your team needs psychologists in after one big defeat then they weren’t mentally resilient in the first place

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Great news ! Let him keep thinking that. :wink:

The Konate vs Bruno had me… :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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I think that is a simple matter of not wanting to blow up his team in early March. He has 13 games to get through the league, if he can get his side back to the way they were playing a week ago, they probably finish in the CL places, job done. If he produces a reaction crisis, what can he do? The player is there until June, and like it or not, Ten Hag needs him to contribute.

It has been clear that the decision was made Monday morning to defend the player. Pity the staff trotted out to claim that the whirling hands gesture was not a demand to be substituted.

Apparently an ‘Old Trafford Insider’ piece appeared in the mirror, leaking all the punishments Ten Hag has inflicted on the players after the shellacking, how he had all the players in at 9am, that sort of thing.

It was transparently leaked by someone close to Ten Hag as a mean of distancing himself from the performance and pushing the blame onto the players.

Utd fans will lap it up but if he thinks that the way to get a squad behind him is to throw them under the bus like this, especially the biggest issue on Saturday was his management, then I think he is in for a rude awakening. Players do not like being scapegoated. When was the last time Klopp acted like this.

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You dont think Klopp has ripped the lads apart behind closed doors when warranted? The players know they let themselves down and then ones who are worth a shit will get on board with harsh punishments because it acts to weed out the ones who are likely to do it again.

I agree this was likely purposefully leaked because it maintains the narrative of EtH being in control at a moment when the narrative could spin wildly out of control, but that doesn’t mean the response is not real or justified/correct.

I don’t get why this is even a thing, it happens all the time, yet this makes it sound like Ten Hag is some sort of revolutionary level leader, when in reality he’s shite. His man marking tactical set up is insanely easy to beat.

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Oh the horror

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That isn’t what I mean.

I’m sure there have been games where Klopp has torn a strip off his players in private, but Klopp would never blame his players in public. In fact, he would be more likely to shoulder the blame himself. Before, I’m sure, slamming the changing room door shut and saying ‘right you fucking pricks, I just took the blame for you so listen…’

It’s one of the reason why players love Klopp. Many have said that he will be tough in public, but you never get him throwing players under a bus, or trying to abrogate himself of culpability.

Leaking a story about how tough he has been with the players and how he punished them, while refusing to acknowledge his own mistakes (of which there were many on Sunday) is surely going to rub players up the wrong way.

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Absolutely. The space his system left all over the pitch on Sunday was incredible. It was remarkably easy to drag a player out of position and exploit the space.

That’s on Ten Hag.

What EtH has said in public has been pretty measured given the degree of unprofessionalism we all saw and saying anything that pretended otherwise would be seen as silly and likely undermine EtH.

Pretending that Klopp has never similarly called our performances unacceptable, when he has done on more than one occasion this season alone, is just idol worship. Klopp is an excellent manager, and part of that is because he has a good sense of when to rip the players and when to take the blame himself. The fact we have a group who have earned the right to not have their motivations questions is a big part of why he puts it on himself so much, but that doesnt mean he never calls out the players, or that doing so is wrong when it is justified.