Post match: Liverpool v Newcastle (ELC 16/3/25 4.30pm)

I think the answer to the first point (if you believe the strongest team should be picked) is that manager shouldn’t make those agreements in the first place and to the second, no one has said (as far as I have read) that Kelleher was the reason we lost. It’s a discussion around principle.

2 Likes

I don’t understand this discussion over Kelleher starting.
He was our best player on the day and had little to do with our defeat imo of course he can not be given MOTM as the opposition scored 2 goals however all that does is mean none of our players get MOTM.

2 Likes

@sweeting made his point initially ahead of the game. The discussion has since then been fuelled as much by, if not more than, people supporting the position of playing Kelleher.

4 Likes

Singling out 1 player in a game where we were 2nd best all over the park is always a futile argument…then it’s over to the manager as to why that was the case for 85mins of the game.

2 Likes

Except no-one has singled him out, and particularly not for the purposes of explaining why we lost.

3 Likes

Thought it was interesting seeing Liveranento up against Salah. We know Salah’s game is cutting inside onto his left rather than someone who is going to try and go outside his fullback.

It was a forced change for them but having a right footer on that side really does help nullify that threat of cutting in. Also helps in blocking those passing lanes between full back and centre back as there’s less inclination to pull right out wide.

Doesn’t help that Salah is used to having Trent or Bradley behind him to offer more threat and that option outside. A really quiet game from Mo but not a lot of help for him.

3 Likes

Livramento is a really good player also. I was hoping him having to shift to the left would negate his strengths going forwards but he had a lovely time playing essentially unopposed in possession all game.

1 Like

This really reminds me of the ‘we should have bought more players in the Summer of 2019’ argument.

It’s really easy to make arguments about what we should have done from the luxury position of not living in the reality where that happened to see how it panned out.

We could have bought more players in 2019, and for all anyone knows the knock on could have been that we didn’t win the league.

As it stands, bad week aside, Slot has us twelve points clear with nine to go. Yes he could have rotated more, but we have absolutely no idea how that would have panned out.

5 Likes

I think Ali probably does better on the first goal, but it really doesn’t matter.

Kelleher has stepped in admirably and kept us in title form when Alisson wasn’t available. The way you keep such a good back up keeper at the club in the first place is you honour the agreements about which games are his.

3 Likes

That’s not hindsight. That’s common sense and it’s not the first time in this season that his problematic usage of the squad has been brought up. There are indeed no guarantees in football but maintaining the squad fresh and fit throughout the season maximizes the chances for silverware.

Slot has failed to do that so far. Whether or not he learns from it will have a bearing on his overall success.

1 Like

That’s not what I have been reading.
Some of it seems quite angry and vindictive as if had Becker played all would have been different.

2 Likes

I don’t think a lot of the top managers are rotating unless they are forced to because of injuries…

1 Like

Where?

The ones I have seen for example (@Sweeting and @wyld.at.hrt) are arguing on the principle of the selection, not on the performance yesterday. @sweeting in his post-match post even went out of his way to say he didn’t lay any blame on Kelleher for the result.

3 Likes

Bringing over into the post match thread is sufficient.
What Sweeting has said has been particularly notable and covering it with weak ‘oh I’m not blaming him’ doesn’t take away what he has already said.
What has been said has not been balanced.

Thats just too funny from yourself all you do is single people out.

We all have our strong points! :grin:

You’ve called Trent shit and Szoboszlai useless in the last few weeks but I’m vindictive? Its not “covering” with anything to say I don’t blame him, I don’t blame him. What I am taking exception to is treating finals of cups as opportunities to rotate our starting goalkeeper. We should be at full strength wherever available.

3 Likes

Oof that was a tough loss to take. The lads didn’t show enough intensity or desire. Slot denies that it was fatigue, but you have to wonder if it wasn’t physical fatigue was there some kind of mental fatigue after the way we lost to PSG?

I’m just hoping this doesn’t lead to a slump and we can bounce back with a win in the league against Everton. At least the Lads will have a little time off to regroup and recover before then.

2 Likes

You should have listened to the commentary on Bein sports. They made out Szobozlai was more than useless. :rofl:
As for Trent well many have been making out he’s shit on here and want to see the back of him. I just find it funny.

Your posts on Kelleher have been very angry in this post match thread. Either assume it or take it back.

1 Like