This is all that counts imo and that’s all CP did.
I understand the crowds reaction however not that of ‘armchair’ observers. It’s disappointing not more.
If there’s anyone to blame it’s the ref and even then the criticism shouldn’t be that great.
Thankfully we scored again and made it a mute point anyway. Except for Woodman keeping a clean sheet which would have been nice particularly considering his performance in general.
The only favour Munoz has done us is to enrage our captain who up to then was calm as you like but after that as soon as the ball was heading for Munoz he was shouting at the one marking him to get in there hard and was egging everyone forward.
I’ve watched that goal 7 or 8 times now. It’s a thing of beauty from the save on. Konate cool under pressure, excellent work from Wirtz to release Jones, the beautifully weighted pass to Robbo and the inch perfect finish.
Bloody marvellous!
Sometimes it happens where a goalie is injured in the process of a scoring chance being created and it would be unreasonable to expect someone to turn up the chance they fairly created. What makes this so dirty was what you point out about Munoz thought process - it was a “chance” that only existed because the goalie was lying on the ground with his hand in the air signaling his distress. The subsequent shot was not one he would have taken had the goalie been physically able to get back to his feet and recover his expected position.
I don’t buy the arguments about us turning off expecting the game to be stopped. If anything to me it was the opposite in that the ball was in the net quickly enough that we didn’t even recognize there was a weird situation to respond to. Most of the defenders played the situation as you would expect them to do with a goalie back in position and oblivious to his situation because it being on their blind side. I think Ibou is the biggest exception there because he’s directly facing Freddie and so should have responded better about dropping back to cover the goal.
I’ve given up on this place. There are peeps who are just here to push their own agenda re Slot than actually watch football…
We are not high pressing anyomore; except in situations..So its no sense peeps talking about how easy it is to run thru us. We should look at how well we defend the last 30yrds…
Slot himself says we are. But ignoring that, people are talking about how easy it is to run through us because it is in fact really easy to run through us. That is because we are doing some weird attempt at pressing high, but doing it very poorly, rarely winning the ball back and often resulting in the opposition far too easily getting the ball to our third having bypassed the 4 or 5 defenders in whatever the hall that pathetic press was.
Yesterday we gave up a good number of big chances and xG and while individual games are not determined by those stats it validates the assessment we were incredibly lucky to find ourselves with a 2 goal lead at any point int he game. Treating this as a comfortable win with no reason to be critical is textbook scoreboard punditry
I think we had much better defensive shape in this match. The distance between our lines was much better than ‘usual’. We even caught them offside a few times. The defensive line was higher and martialed better.
However our midfield was still cut through like a hot knife through butter. It’s like Macca and Szoboszlai have no reading of the game what so ever in these defensive roles. It got even worst when Gravenberch came on.
This lack of vision and reading the game can be leveled when we have the ball as well. The obvious ‘forward’ pass is so often ignored. We pass it back and then send a long ball.
Midfield spend too long on the ball, they don’t seem to look for a pass but to dribble forward. If that’s not on they pass back. For the opposition coaches this must be so easy to prepare for.
You point these things out and someone on here gets cross and looses it as if you’ve insulted them.
I do, because within the narrative of the game the referee had already demonstrated his willingness to stop play for injury several times in the match - and not even for injuries needing treatment. In at least two occasions he pulled us back from a starting an attack because a Palace player was injured.
There is inconsistency to how referees treat injury within the game, but there was also an inconsistency within that particular match. You don’t was teams being denied chances to score, but as you say, that chance only exists because our keeper is on the ground injured.
But none of your response addresses what the players actually did. It addresses only the post facto explanation for why they might reasonably have assumed the ref would stop the game.
I don’t think there was anything post hoc about it.
Referees create the mood of a football match in how they manage the game. I’ve seen games where referees ignore shithouse challenges all game and then suddenly whip a red out, and players look genuinely confused.
I think the biggest indicator that the players expected that to be stopped is that every single Liverpool player obviously stops. It isn’t one or two. Not one player thinks ‘Fuck. Our Keeper is down and the goal is unprotected’
Can’t believe anyone is blaming the Palace player for carrying on. If play is stopped every time a keeper appears to get a knock making a save then they would feign injury all the time. In any case he got up and carried on as if nothing had happened..
He says that because we’re still high pressing, but just not the way we have been in the past.
The biggest problem is that our transition to our set defensive shape is not happening as quickly as it should…
Yes we gave up two big chances in the first half. The first from Jones inexplicably trying a Cryuff turn in the box and the second from a setpiece situation, where we went to sleep on the 2nd phase.
No we were not incredibly lucky. We took a while to get into the game. But we controlled it quite well subsequently and especially, our game between the lines was very good, which is precisely where we won the match.
This recent talk about players stepping up to leadership levels. - There’s a leader right there
Watched the game back and he was probably our best player for what he can do intelligently suddenly, fast brain thinking.
WOW - Not beaten palace at Anfield since 2021 (just read that Mane got to 100 Liverpool premier league goals that day and the season in which he sadly left)
Also, on Robbo’s goal, I know the season has been dud, but I would say that was our goal of the season. Everything was perfect in that moment of play, don’t see it often enough.