Post match: Man City v Liverpool (EPL 1/4/23 12.30pm)

Yeah, you’re right. When the voice of reason on the forum tells you off you know you’ve gone too far.

Sorry everyone.

Disagree.

The nature of a top four race and a title race is massively different. If we were eight behind the leader at this point, then it would be over. Teams sitting top don’t tend to lose many points.

Teams floating around 4-7 drop loads of points. That’s why they are not in a title race.

A good run to the end of the season will give every chance. But need to start putting wins together.

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So Pepe le shit…gets away with no fine…and we for checking decisions…maybe fined…what a farce/swizz and stinks of back handers…

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I’ve come to the realisation that we don’t have the type of end of year consistency that we typically would have at this time of year to have a repeat of 20/21 for instance. Unless we have a lopsided distribution in favour of home games remaining, which I don’t think we do, then it looks very unlikely.

Under normal circumstances where LFC is one of the teams who has timed their form to come late in the season, I’d be much more confident. 8 points is nothing. But do we look like a team that could even put 3 wins together? Fuck no.

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Same games played, 8 points behind both, 11 games to go.

Top four hasn’t gone, but the likelihood diminishes with each passing defeat. If we can go on a good run - and to be fair we haven’t shown any indication this season that we can, but IF we can, who knows?

It would be lovely to see the worst Liverpool side in years finish ahead of the best Man Utd side in years, just to underscore how ridiculous it was to talk about them as chasing the quad.

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That is true. Another way of saying this is that it’s up to us. We know what this side is capable of, even if we have struggled to show it this season.

What I keep coming back to is this. What we have been very good at, every year, under Klopp is racing to the line. Even in the shit year after winning the league, we still closed out with something ten unbeaten. In fact, the only time we didn’t was when we had already won it.

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FA rule E20.1 requests players to conduct themselves in an orderly fashion, and the aftermath of Rodri’s foul could land Liverpool in a spot of trouble.

What a fucking copeout. Happens every week in 3-4 games at a minimum, why are they only just enforcing it now when we brake it, but every other club has gotten away with it all season?

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Seriously? We’re in trouble for this? Late April fools joke?

That second Rodri foul was fucking hilarious by the way. If you watch Hooper, you can see him absolutely shit himself when he gives the foul, realises who it is, and that technically it’s a second yellow. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Ref more visibly shrink in authority.

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I hope you’re right and I admire your optimism. I just hope the lads see it the same way.

We look broken though. Physically the lads might be capable but if upstairs is shot we’re really going to struggle…

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People on here (including me initially) have been saying this for at least 6 weeks how we historically have turned it around, but it just hasn’t happened. What’s more we look as broken as we were 6 weeks ago. I expect those teams between 3rd and 7th to drop more than 8 points before season’s end. I just don’t think we will be, nor do we look like being, the ones to capitalize on it.

The fact that we just don’t seem to play as a unit anymore surely states something is wrong that cannot be easily fixed on the training ground… With a broken leg you can see it in a cast and know it is healing slowly, with what is wrong with the boys at the moment, who can tell how long the road to full recovery is… we might need to brace ourselves because there is a possibility that these ailments will carry over into the whole of next season also…!

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But we had a specific problem at centre back then, which was patched over. There’s a general malaise throughout the team now. I’m normally an optimist but struggling to see how we make top 4. Will still be supporting the lads tonight though. Those hateful plastics are enough to reignite the passion!

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Very similar to the one that infested the club under Kenny’s second stint.

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Gutted by the second half capitulation, but having had a couple of days to think about it, I’m now less bothered.

At our recent best, when we were a purring machine, going to Man City was a tall order. Sometimes we won, other times we lost, and occasionally we lost quite handily. So this game in isolation doesn’t bother me so much.

We all know this iteration of the Liverpool side is coming to a close. Winning at Man City is not going to be the way this current Liverpool team is measured. It will be measured with the crap we’ve seen all season, along with a few points of light.

In other words, we know it is past it, on the whole, but we also know that it is better than it has shown, and there have been a few tantalizing glimpses of a great future to come.

Part of me can’t wait for the season to end, so we can see who we sign, and see how the whole thing is refreshed again.

But we can’t do that! There are eleven games to go, and we have to play it out to see where we land. Deep down (and I don’t have a lot of hope for it, but it’s a kernel that is there) I’d love to see us go on a run to the end of the season, and nab fourth spot ahead of Man Utd.

The worst Liverpool team in recent years, against the best Man Utd team, and still we better them.

Get in! It’s the life of a football fan. You have to hope for something!

That would almost feel like redemption

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It’s entirely possible. Given our ability to do bat shit crazy things when the chips are down, wouldn’t surprise me. Equally wouldn’t surprise me if the team donned sunglasses and lay on the pitch (metaphorically speaking) from now till May.

Absolutely that’s what scares me as well. We think Klopp is some sort of genius that will just easily repair this over summer. There’s a lot of weight on those shoulders. We may turn it around in one summer, but there are no guarantees. Off camera, Klopp might be coming to the realisation that there are very serious problems within the squad. If there are deep problems, we are likely to do this over multiple summers as we aren’t the type of club that will make 15 signings in a window.

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This is horrible how much room he got and not only him. Virgil just letting him come inside and do damage as an example.

But especially when you hear that Mahrez’s previous record in carry distance in a PL game was 233m.