Post match: Southampton v Liverpool (EPL 17/5/22 7.45pm)

A bit pedantic to be fair.
I stated that in my opinion the Chelsea structure changed following the sending off. Thus making them harder to break down.
But I said my opinion.

I don’t like the automatic go to of conspiracy theory. It is reductionist language to take away from a legitimate side of the debate. Lump them in with cranks and anti vaxxers etc…tin foil hat stuff.

You have your strongly held opinion, and I have mine.

In paragraph one you mention City benefitting from a clear game turning mistake.
Also a mistake by VAR.

Could you contemplate it not being a mistake?

Your other argument makes sene, but both theories may play out in parallel.

That’s the point, it IS tinfoil hat stuff.

If you want people to comprehend your opinion, it’s worth dialling it back. Use words like bias instead of corruption. Don’t dismiss all evidence of poor decisions against other teams etc. You’ll probably find most people will agree with you. But when it gets too extreme with suggestions of organized conspiracies and brown envelopes etc then it becomes pie in the sky stuff.

Not you specifically, but anyone on that extreme side of the argument. Which for the record is almost as boring as the discussion about the time we didn’t buy a CB.

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At what point did I go to organised conspiracy or brown envelopes.
And if you are so inclined youwill note that I use the word bias consistently, way more than corruption.
Also, the tinfoil hat shite is an insult, but I guess thats how you aimed it.

And finally if the discussion is boring just move along. Maybe better than your condescending contribution anyway.

“Not you specifically, but anyone on that extreme side of the argument”

Perhaps if you learned to read (and not make unfunny and unhelpful ‘jokes’ during the discussion) I wouldn’t bother being condescending.

And nobody would be labelled as the tinfoil hat brigade if it was all just dialled back a bit. As I say, you’d probably find most people are in agreement.

By eck a lot of words with nothing said :kissing_heart:

Now come on. Take a close look at this and imagine this is let’s say Richarlison on Mane.

Are you honestly going to tell me you think that there should not be a yellow card issued. Imagine the in match thread if that was Salah being tripped by Pogba and no card was given…

Would that be quoted as yet more evidence? You know it would…

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Wait, why would it be a yellow card? Genuine question, as I quite clearly don’t know the law of the game that well…

I’m certain that humans let their feelings interfere with their decisions. I umpire for our cricket team, you can imagine. Show me a fan forum that doesn’t have a consistent thread or posts about how the refs and VAR are against them. I don’t and never will believe in any kind of internal organised corruption unless something truly blatant happens.

It was a clumsy foul
But not every foul deserves a yellow card.

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Apologies for the joke then. I will explain ut better the next time.
Nice one with the reading jibe, very clever so well done.

You addressed your response to me, not in general.

Your original response to me was incoherent. I tried to write my clarification, that you clearly needed, like I was talking very slowly. That seemingly didn’t work either.

Ce la vie.

Let me try and explain it to you in simple English.

Not every official needs to be biased/corrupt.

Take Anthony Taylor for example. This clown constantly ‘misses’ incidents that would benefit Liverpool. The James handball, the Pogba foul on Keita, the fact Lallana used his shoulder to control the ball rather than his hand v Wolves the season we won the league, the Kompany foul on Salah that helped cost us the title…there’s more too, but it’s remarkable how he only seems to miss things that would go in our favour. Where it falls on it’s arse is when there’s a decent VAR who tells him he needs to go and look at the monitor and lo and behold! there’s Anthony Taylor making that telly in the air thing they do when they’ve got it wrong and he has to change his decision in our favour.

Now consider Tierney and Kavanagh. This time you have 2 cheats working in tandem. Tierney ‘refereeing’ the Spurs- Liverpool game and the Everton - Man City game. He has Kavanagh on VAR for both games. Tierney ‘misses’ the blatant foul on Jota in the box. He doesn’t see the Kane tackle on Robertson as a red card. Kavanagh decides both decisions are fine and keeps his gob shut. But he doesn’t keep his gob shut later in the game and tells Tierney he might want to send Robbo off, which he does. Months later he keeps his gob shut and denies Everton one of the most obvious penalties you’ll ever see.

And that’s how it works. A clown like Taylor might do his best to fuck us over but he’s got a bloke with integrity on VAR who calls him on it.
But Tierney has another cheat on VAR who will not only allow him to make shite decisions but will also tell him to go and look at the monitor if he feels he can shaft us.

Consider Stuart Attwell. He’s been VAR for the Cresswell tackle on Henderson, the Sanchez assault on Diaz and the foul on Jota the other night in the Southampton game. He saw nothing wrong with any of them so didn’t inform the referee. Yet when he refereed the Caraboa Cup final he deemed Van Dijks’ minimal contact on the Chelsea defender to be a foul and disallowed Matip’s goal.

So that’s how it works. You can have a cheat as a referee with an honest man on VAR. You can have an honest referee with a cheat on VAR or you can have a cheat as a referee with another cheat to back him up.

It’s not that hard at all really.

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@jaffod mate you’re an encyclopaedia of bad refereeing decisions against Liverpool! It’s quite impressive, I can’t even remember what I ate for breakfast this morning, let alone which ref didn’t call a hand ball against us in 2018.

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So lads, we beat Southampton to set up a nail biting last day in the league.

That was good wasn’t it?

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Their not incompetent but biased!!!

Feel like we’re going round in the circles here

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Stuck on the roundabout :grin::grin::grin:

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