A bit pedantic to be fair.
I stated that in my opinion the Chelsea structure changed following the sending off. Thus making them harder to break down.
But I said my opinion.
I donât like the automatic go to of conspiracy theory. It is reductionist language to take away from a legitimate side of the debate. Lump them in with cranks and anti vaxxers etcâŚtin foil hat stuff.
You have your strongly held opinion, and I have mine.
In paragraph one you mention City benefitting from a clear game turning mistake.
Also a mistake by VAR.
Could you contemplate it not being a mistake?
Your other argument makes sene, but both theories may play out in parallel.
Thatâs the point, it IS tinfoil hat stuff.
If you want people to comprehend your opinion, itâs worth dialling it back. Use words like bias instead of corruption. Donât dismiss all evidence of poor decisions against other teams etc. Youâll probably find most people will agree with you. But when it gets too extreme with suggestions of organized conspiracies and brown envelopes etc then it becomes pie in the sky stuff.
Not you specifically, but anyone on that extreme side of the argument. Which for the record is almost as boring as the discussion about the time we didnât buy a CB.
At what point did I go to organised conspiracy or brown envelopes.
And if you are so inclined youwill note that I use the word bias consistently, way more than corruption.
Also, the tinfoil hat shite is an insult, but I guess thats how you aimed it.
And finally if the discussion is boring just move along. Maybe better than your condescending contribution anyway.
âNot you specifically, but anyone on that extreme side of the argumentâ
Perhaps if you learned to read (and not make unfunny and unhelpful âjokesâ during the discussion) I wouldnât bother being condescending.
And nobody would be labelled as the tinfoil hat brigade if it was all just dialled back a bit. As I say, youâd probably find most people are in agreement.
By eck a lot of words with nothing said
Now come on. Take a close look at this and imagine this is letâs say Richarlison on Mane.
Are you honestly going to tell me you think that there should not be a yellow card issued. Imagine the in match thread if that was Salah being tripped by Pogba and no card was givenâŚ
Would that be quoted as yet more evidence? You know it wouldâŚ
Wait, why would it be a yellow card? Genuine question, as I quite clearly donât know the law of the game that wellâŚ
Iâm certain that humans let their feelings interfere with their decisions. I umpire for our cricket team, you can imagine. Show me a fan forum that doesnât have a consistent thread or posts about how the refs and VAR are against them. I donât and never will believe in any kind of internal organised corruption unless something truly blatant happens.
It was a clumsy foul
But not every foul deserves a yellow card.
Apologies for the joke then. I will explain ut better the next time.
Nice one with the reading jibe, very clever so well done.
You addressed your response to me, not in general.
Your original response to me was incoherent. I tried to write my clarification, that you clearly needed, like I was talking very slowly. That seemingly didnât work either.
Ce la vie.
Let me try and explain it to you in simple English.
Not every official needs to be biased/corrupt.
Take Anthony Taylor for example. This clown constantly âmissesâ incidents that would benefit Liverpool. The James handball, the Pogba foul on Keita, the fact Lallana used his shoulder to control the ball rather than his hand v Wolves the season we won the league, the Kompany foul on Salah that helped cost us the titleâŚthereâs more too, but itâs remarkable how he only seems to miss things that would go in our favour. Where it falls on itâs arse is when thereâs a decent VAR who tells him he needs to go and look at the monitor and lo and behold! thereâs Anthony Taylor making that telly in the air thing they do when theyâve got it wrong and he has to change his decision in our favour.
Now consider Tierney and Kavanagh. This time you have 2 cheats working in tandem. Tierney ârefereeingâ the Spurs- Liverpool game and the Everton - Man City game. He has Kavanagh on VAR for both games. Tierney âmissesâ the blatant foul on Jota in the box. He doesnât see the Kane tackle on Robertson as a red card. Kavanagh decides both decisions are fine and keeps his gob shut. But he doesnât keep his gob shut later in the game and tells Tierney he might want to send Robbo off, which he does. Months later he keeps his gob shut and denies Everton one of the most obvious penalties youâll ever see.
And thatâs how it works. A clown like Taylor might do his best to fuck us over but heâs got a bloke with integrity on VAR who calls him on it.
But Tierney has another cheat on VAR who will not only allow him to make shite decisions but will also tell him to go and look at the monitor if he feels he can shaft us.
Consider Stuart Attwell. Heâs been VAR for the Cresswell tackle on Henderson, the Sanchez assault on Diaz and the foul on Jota the other night in the Southampton game. He saw nothing wrong with any of them so didnât inform the referee. Yet when he refereed the Caraboa Cup final he deemed Van Dijksâ minimal contact on the Chelsea defender to be a foul and disallowed Matipâs goal.
So thatâs how it works. You can have a cheat as a referee with an honest man on VAR. You can have an honest referee with a cheat on VAR or you can have a cheat as a referee with another cheat to back him up.
Itâs not that hard at all really.
@jaffod mate youâre an encyclopaedia of bad refereeing decisions against Liverpool! Itâs quite impressive, I canât even remember what I ate for breakfast this morning, let alone which ref didnât call a hand ball against us in 2018.
So lads, we beat Southampton to set up a nail biting last day in the league.
That was good wasnât it?
Their not incompetent but biased!!!
Feel like weâre going round in the circles here
Stuck on the roundabout