How anyone saying that’s not a foul on Ali in the first goal I can’t understand. Ogbonnas arms are recklessly in the air, he hits Ali’s arm with his arm and that results to Ali making the own goal.
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Ogbonna hit Alisson with his right elbow. Like Klopp said, that’s a foul in pretty much every country except for England. And there are English refs who in all likelihood would have ruled it out.
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WH were determined, organised and took their chances. Midfield poor today and that led to pressure on our leaky defence. No complaints about the result. A draw might have been kinder to us, but we got what we deserved.
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I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the dressing room and in the post match analysis meeting for this one. We weren’t great but I’d also like to hear Klopps exact thoughts on where we went wrong. West Ham were good to be fair to them but we should be better than we were and I dont think it was all down to a lack of effort.
For me it’s no.3…Antonio backs into Ali pushing him off his line…he then has to adjust his stance…corner taken and Ali is not ready…clear and obvious foul…as I said before are goalies not protected anymore…it should have been a ‘warning talk’ from the ref and taken again…but after 5mins. Into the game I knew we’d get no joy from reffy.
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Unfortunately got to watch that live. Everyone was shite bar Virgil and Matip. Mo had some good moments also. Ali looked weak, compared him to De Geas first season. Was bullied at corners even if it could have been a foul and was shocking for the third. Robbo and Trent were average bar the free kick. Robbo kept cutting it back to a West Ham player every cross. Midfield was dire, we play like Burnley at times, you would think we had a 6,5 striker with the high balls into the box. Mane and Jota invisible and Thiago with a shocker. Couldn’t pass for his life. Disappointed lads didn’t show up
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As are we…
Very much a game to forget, but I think overall it was more a poor team performance than anything else. We looked devoid of energy for the most part, and they were outrunning us easily. Our passes were also nowhere close to the usual standards, with even those that reached their man still requiring the target player to move away from an advantageous position in order to receive it.
On their second goal, it seemed like no one had the energy to chase after any of their players, instead just listlessly jogging back. For the other two goals though, I don’t understand how they can just block Alisson off on the corners. I could have sworn that was a foul.
The refereeing on the whole was abysmal. One doesn’t even have to subscribe to any conspiracy theory in order to note that their first goal should have been chalked off, and they should have been a man down. That we were poor doesn’t change the fact that if the refereeing had been anywhere close to being decent, we could easily have won it, or at least taken a draw out of it. Once again though, the great standard of refereeing tips fortunes in their favour.
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One more thing, Jota wasn’t poor, but I would have made the substitution earlier, or even started Origi. He’s great in the air for his size, but he was still dwarfed by the West Ham defence (or at least it felt like it).
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Haven’t seen this mentioned but wasn’t Antonio offside for the second goal and interfering with play? vVD ran into him.
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I had thought same too.
Nah. VVD’s not getting to Fornals. The question for me is why didn’t we change something when we saw how effective West Ham were on the counterattack. Maybe throwing so many bodies so far forward wasn’t the way.
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Yeah I was at the game and I pretty much said this in the post-match thread.
Really poor.
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They pressed us at the beginning of both halfs and caused us some problems but we struggled through it to dominate.
We scored 2 goals which isn’t bad against a team that essentially parked the bus.
We defend with 2 players that’s always going to be difficult against counters but that would only give them 1 goal. It’s the 2 soft goals from their corners that made the difference.
For me our midfield was good, Fabs got caught and made some poor passing decissions however that didn’t cost us the match.
Anyway I really appreciated some of the stuff our 3 midfielders were pulling off today against a very well organised, physically aggressive bus parking team which to confound it all has some very good players. I would have been satisfied with a draw after seeing the match, that we lost and how we lost, 2 soft corners, was what is dissappointing.
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Sick of seeing Klopp being out-thought tactically by the likes of Moyes.
All Moyes etc has to say to his players is throw in a leg-breaker or two. Even if it goes to VAR 90% of the time fuck all will happen unless it’s so bad the ref will have no choice but to look at it. Klopp’s got no answer to it.
Yeah I noticed that as well. Takes an age to adapt to the pace of the game. He has that style about him to make things seem easy or that he always has plenty of time, but at times he needs to show more urgency.
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A leg-breaker or two is out-thinking tactically?
Think I might give the forum a break for a week or 2 
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I had bad feelings the whole weekend.
Would it had been better to start Tsimikas instead of Robbo? Or Konate instead of Matip? Nowbody knows.
I‘m glad Trend has seemingly found back his shooting boots. At least concerning freekicks.
He is taking the piss. 
While you’re away read up on sarcasm.
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