Pre-match | Liverpool FC V Man Utd | EPL - 19/10/2025 - 4:30pm

TBH, I’m with the United fans on this (not whether we get lucky or not). That thing with Dalot a couple of seasons ago was bizarre. I can only imagine that he told Oliver to fuck off, but it looked like a betting scam.

Anyway, I’ll try not to let him spoil my enjoyment.

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The timing and the fact that it is at Anfield makes it an occasion to look forward to. Win this, and it’s a statement that we are back.

Of course, if we lose this one too, then… but I’m sure that the players will show a committed performance. Let’s not forget that the mancs have their own problems too, it’s not as if they were full strength, or overflowing with confidence. They too come back from international games.

The Anfield crowd will have a big role to play in this one, in order to cheer our boys, on towards the three points.

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I wonder if there’s any referee who would be acceptable :thinking:

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His record was utterly rotten with us last season, hopefully Burnley has reset that.

None, some people on this forum will always find one dubious decision against every single one even if the said decision was something that was difficult.

Like Pawson for instance isn’t the worst, yes he has made some wrong decisions but generally I’d be happy with him, no doubt however someone is heating their laptop up now to tell me of 5 decisions in which he screwed us.

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I completely ignore them and it came naturally for me, so happy about that. I couldn’t name two active referees in world football, their styles or history with us. Can’t bother going into that, it sounds like a vicious circle. Every fanbase (or a good % of it) think their club is cursed.

I just see decisions on the pitch and blank faces.

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It’s @jaffod. He really knows deep cover. :rofl:

If people find a dubious decusion, does that signal that there is something amiss?
Surely, all the evidence produced at least makes you question these referees?

By the time we play, Arsenal will have drawn away to Fulham and maybe City will drop points to Everton. Latter is doubtful.
A win puts us back on top.

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Dubious is the wrong word I meant wrong. But as someone who reffed the game you can spot the odd from mistake, pile on a crowd of 50k along with the chirping of players like you get further down I’m not surprised mistakes are made.

VAR is more questionable when they don’t pick up on the obvious.

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Will be interesting to note though… Opposing teams have grasped the tactic, that in disrupting our play, it disrupts our rhythm and prevents us getting up a head of steam and/or attacking momentum… Oliver could well know this and contribute to a stop/start type of game by blowing up for every little/single niggle…
Best result for his beloved Sandcastle would be a draw.
Like I mentioned above, it will be interesting to monitor his performance

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If someone is “prone” to errors of the magnitude some of these people make, well you’d have to question are they in the right career.
This genius Oliver saw Pickfords assault on Virgil and did fuck all. Multi million pound footballer out for the season. If he stole a toilet roll from Tesco his job would be on the line.

That’s just not true though.

The reality is we were on the end of some absolutely incredible decisions for a good few seasons up until Klopp left. It was evident before that when Webb and Atkinson were knocking about but it really seemed to ramp up the longer JK was here. Make of that what you will. It was also clear how it was the same old faces involved - Taylor, Kavanagh, Tierney (maybe they’re connected somehow?) and Coote (wonder what happened to him…) was showing signs of getting involved until he was removed from our matches completely for a couple of years.
Last season and this one so far we have been refereed more fairly I’d say. Does that mean myself and Quicksand etc were wrong? On the contrary, I’d say it made that period look even more sinister, one club being shafted time after time over a few seasons and then being fairly (on the whole) refereed.
So what changed? Was it Klopp leaving? Was it getting too obvious even for them? Did the club actually grow a spine and go after them behind the scenes, presenting them with numerous examples of the inexplicable decisions made against us?
We’ll probably never know but one thing is clear as day for me, there has been a clear shift over the last 18 months from what went before it.

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One thing is certain: United can do whatever they want with Isak without consequences.

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Where did I say every decision was 100% accurate and didn’t carry bias. Coote was VAR that day and I’ve already said about VAR being more of an issue on this stuff if that isn’t spotting errors like that then there is something fundamentally wrong.

I’ve come out and said it’s a tough job and even drones wouldn’t work when rules are open to interpretation.

Yes some are terrible, some are obviously biased but effectively every time a ref is announced some people find something wrong. I personally think Oliver is awful and possibly bias but it would be the same for anyone bar some odd bloke who they’ve plucked from the Championship and that would only last until he made one error.

The PGMOL needs disbanding but god knows what will replaces it and would every current ref be sacked I’m don’t think that would be remotely fair on some.

It’s the same argument as our manager speaking out like that will change anything.

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And I didn’t intend my response as you took it.
But your initial point that there would be members on here heating up their laptops sounded a bit accusatory.

@SBYM, at the Caf again, trolling Mancs?

Pro tip: keep it cool and you can faux outrage on here faster, for longer

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I’m sure theres a gif that recognises your comedic talent.

Somewhere.

Wow, you come.ac4oss as such a friendly kind person.