Premier League 2023/24 (Part 1)

I’d say yellow was fair for Walker. However both of Kovacic’s fouls were worse than Jones’. No mitigating factors, just dirty tackles

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Might as well just conclude the league and hand the title to Man City now.
Not so much bias refereeing against us, just blatant fucking cheating against the rest of the league.
How anyone can honestly look at the 2 tackles from Kovacic and say he didn’t deserve to be sent off is staggering, but completely unsurprising in equal measure.

Corrupt doesn’t even come close to describing the preferential treatment that shower of cheating cunts get

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Agree, completely. But what is the solution to this.

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Was Kovacic,s first both feet off the ground and from behind the player tackled?

There is no solution.
Their 115 corruption charges will result in a slap on the wrist level fine, and the status quo will resume.
They’ll continue to get corrupt refereeing decisions, with every commentator and pundit ignoring this and creaming themselves over them winning the league every year.

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The Prem voting in favour of kicking them out the league……

Or get that ESL reformed with a few tweaks and leave City behind.

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In the West Ham v Newcastle game, Emerson was given a yellow card for waving the imaginary yellow card but Almiron wasn’t punished for doing exactly the same thing. Guimares should’ve been sent off for a second yellow but wasn’t. The inconsistency of refereeing is shocking, I’m sick of talking about it week after week.

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The results today meant that when we resume PL football and we beat Everton, we will be top for at least a few hours. Long season to go.

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Yeah… but the Dyche Army will be on a real high after pummelling Bournemouth :laughing: :laughing:

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it is the inconsistency that irks but when you are dealing with humans that will always happen, but sometimes how they can get decisions or multiple decisions wrong is beyond me.

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Sadly, we seem to be agreeing again…

Watched MOTD2 and they’re bending over backwards to excuse the Kovacic incidents.

After last week i think there has been something put out there(maybe due to concern to refs/future refs) and most of the commentators/presenters are toeing the line.
After watching the Kovacic incidents back he tackled from behind,was off the ground,studs pointing towards the leg/ankle and on impact the leg/ankle bent(as you’d expect).For me both of those were clear red cards,why Oliver doesn’t give them i don’t know,and don’t agree.
PGMOL should be made to explain why previous incidents resulted in yellow/red cards and incidents like this do not.
Call them out on their answers.

However, they referee themselves.

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I know.
He plays for City.

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We should be top of the table.

MD1 we gave Chelsea too much respect. Our own fault.

We were robbed vs Spurs

and still felt the effects of that yesterday.

As expected it was a difficult match but with one of Curtis, Cody or Diogo available we should have won that.

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It’s early October. Being top right now means fuck all. We’ve had a great start to the season, having played away to 4 of what you would expect to be the top 7 teams at the end of it. We’re right in the mix, and should have the beating of all four of those teams at Anfield.

After last season I’ll take it, we look much improved and when we buy a CB or two the rebuild should be complete.

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In 20-21, when we finished with 92 points we had “only” 18 points at this point in the season after a much softer start. By then we’d dropped points at home to Chelsea and City and also Brentford. 17 points from a run that required us to play Spurs, Newcastle Brighton and Chelsea away is tracking very well relative to that total, even more when you see the additional obstacles put up against us by the refs in those games and the reasonable expectation that given how new this team is that it will continue to get better as the season goes on

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I very much hope so. I thought “oh, no, not again” when Gravenberch missed yesterday but I was hoping for two points from the last two fixtures anyway, so one point is not a disaster if we respond properly over the next four games - considering we had a difficult fixture list, especially when it comes to away games. (Side note: what worries me a bit is that Brighton have become a proper bogey side for us - one win in the last eight games if I’m not mistaken, I think we have a similar record against Real Madrid!)

That said, two years ago, we lost the title over the festive period when the whole team felt a bit off - not tired, disillusioned or disorganised, just a bit off. We couldn’t hold onto a two goal lead at Chelsea, we couldn’t convert a penalty against an off-form Leicester (we would have absolutely battered them had that one gone in), while the refereeing performance at Tottenham was the worst I’ve seen in my life at club level until the last one we played there.

I had been feeling that “offness” yesterday against Brighton until the moment we scored. The game didn’t feel like we were exchanging tactical blows, we mostly sat back and pinged it around in a laid back manner, hoping for a opening to send a through ball to Salah or Nunez. I hope we’ll see less of that as the season progresses and the team grows.

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Having looked at other teams fixtures I think we’ve done very well, I’m a bit disappointed we didn’t get at least 3 in the last two but looking at the other teams I think it’s pretty decent.

Arsenal: All their tough fixtures have been home and are yet to play any of those slightly out of the established top 5.

Spurs have played us at home (which I think only Spurs fans and those with blinkers would say was deserved win) and played Man Utd at home, their most credible win was away to Arsenal a 2-2 draw.

Man City have played Arsenal away (loss) and Newcastle at home with a credible win at West Ham.

We’ve played Spurs, Newcastle, Chelsea and Brighton away, 5pts isn’t a bad return and the fact it should have been more

Throw in home ties against West Ham and Villa which were reasonably comfortable. It’s been a good start. Don’t think at this moment we’ve dropped points where potentially others won’t. I think that changes if we struggle after the break but at this moment it’s not.

Chelsea hit a really bad run but hopefully they are a bit improved and hit some of our rivals.

All three of the teams above us have a tougher patch coming up. Though Brighton are better home than away so don’t expect them to get a good result at Man City.

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