Premier League 2024/25 (Part 1)

@Walshy07 APOLOGISE

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Van Den Berg looking poor not good enough in possession

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Will Carvalho score?

Let’s be honest, no. He’s not even on the bench.

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Pathetic refereeing

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Just hate that, defender nowhere to go and attacker charges him in the back for an easy freekick, should dock him pay for stupidity

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Lewis-Potter is crap

But how many times do you see that with defender in the corner and nowhere to go

All the time yeah its very irritating. You expect players at the top of the game to be much smarter.

It’s the smarter bit that is lacking

This is we can only rely on ourselves. Hopefully Brentford don’t show up against us.

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I dislike everyone except us to start the New Year

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I’ve been in the pub for most of the last fortnight, so missed this:

I only wish I were there to see @Sweeting 's face when he sees his mate, Gvardiol, make the cut, while they somehow have Saka ahead of Salah. :man_shrugging:

I must still be drunk.

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That team is a fever dream. Doing a calendar year award that combines two parts of two season can produce weird results, but even with that caveat that is some weird shit. The two that jump out are the other two Arsenal picks. Saliba is by some distance of the better of the two primary Arsenal CBs, and Havertz as a striker is just odd

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London bias still alive and well, I see.

Oh it’s calendar year. That’s weird.

Flekken: I have Flekken as 19/20 starting GKs in the league this season based on my own (rudimentary) stats. He’s rubbish. Should be Vicario - as much as I don;t really rate him that highly - he has the best stats when you look at quality of chances faced vs goals conceded and save % (Tottenham allow a lot of easy chances, he saves them a bunch).

Gvardiol: A big part in why City have struggled this season but he’s scored a few goals. Marvelous. Should be Antonee Robinson.

Saka: Good player but some of the stats to justify his inclusion are odd. ā€œ5th most shotsā€ - what does that mean? 14th most successful dribbles… er what? Obviously this should be Salah.

Eze: Talented but I’m amazed he shows up statistically when he’s pretty much the definition of style over substance. He has 2 goals this season.

Havertz: ā€œA respectable 16 goalsā€. Isak has 27 in the same time.

The Guardian’s coverage has been wonky at best recently. Remember they had Dani Carvajal as the 9th best player in the world (having not even been ranked the year before!) - ahead of Salah, Mbappe, Saka, Odegaard, Lewandowski, Rudiger, Saliba, van Dijk etc and so on.

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Indeed it has. But this team is compiled by WhoScored, not the Guardian’s own writers.

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They didn’t need to publish the shite though! :joy:

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I think the main take home is the post-game marks out of 10 ratings are an incredibly crappy way to reflect a player’s value and contribution. Or at least it is with the way the outlets that produce those ratings do it. More often than not a high score is a reflection of ā€œdid the player do something that I both noticed at the time and rememberā€. And just as often a mid score is a reflection of ā€œthe player has a role I dont understand and cannot evaluate his performance at itā€.

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The hamstring injury Fofana picked up in the early December game against Villa is now being reported as likely to end his season. 80 million quid and he’s going to have averaged fewer than 10 games a season over his 3 years there. He has been absent so much since signing for them that I dont think you can even reasonably include him in ā€œimportant players Chelsea are missing through injuryā€ conversations because he’s never played enough to be important to them.

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So, Trent will be only one signature away from a straight swap with Carvajal, thus becoming world’s 9th best player by default. That’s some way to close down the deficit behind the 1st spot he covets so much…

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