I take your point but what if it’s blatantly stupid? Come on, a person who’s just given birth identifying as a man is clearly verging on lunacy.
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Why? Who decides if it’s stupid? I know a lesbian couple who prefer non-gendered pronouns and one of them had a baby.
You have got to accept that life happens outside the narrow constraints of what you deem ‘normal’.
You would totally reject this, but there was a time when the idea of a man fancying another man was considered ridiculous in our society. If you’d have been born fifty years earlier, you’d be there saying that the idea of a man fancying another man is totally ridiculous.
Live and let live. If someone doesn’t want to be referred to by female terminology respect their wishes. It doesn’t matter whether they are having a baby or stripping down a car engine. It’s want they want, respect them. Your analysis of legitimacy of their request is not needed.
I think you mean that you don’t want / like it. It’s certainly needed.
Never knew being gay used to be frowned upon, you should tell me more things I’m too stupid to understand. Like how do you define failing to condescend?
As a further point the link between homosexuality and transgenderism utterly alludes me.
milk of amnesia?
My take on this.
Women have breasts - Fact.
Womens breasts are on their chest - Fact.
Womens breasts produce milk - Fact
No-ones chest produces milk - Fact.
Are we looking to change facts to make some people feel better?
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don’t let the truth get in the way of some folk’s cosplay…
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Do you realise how deeply, grossly offensive that is to transgendered people.
It’s no more ‘cosplay’ than being gay is ‘pretending’ to fancy the same sex people as yourself.
I’m with the parking attendant. And he is bang on about Audi drivers.
I was 100% certain you’d be the first with that kind of response
That’s not entirely true. Some people dress up to fulfil a fantasy and are (or would like to be) considered a member of the opposite sex. I have a friend who does this some weekends and he’s a strapping 6ft bloke. This is cosplay.
You don’t choose who you’re sexually attracted to but you do choose to make yourself look like something you probably are not. You certainly do choose to start taking drugs and having healthy bits of you cut off and altered. Feeling you’re not what you are might not be a choice but doing increasingly serious things about it is.
I’m drawing a link because years ago, gay people had to fight for the right to legitimacy just like transgendered people are doing today.
Back then some people supported gay people in that struggle, and some mocked them, made fun of them and had the attitude that it was all ridiculous and men should fancy women and vice versus.
The question is if we were around back then, where would we each be in that struggle? I think your attitude to trans rights suggests it isn’t where you like to think you’d be.
Well the post above yours proves you think wrong. I foresee a time when the whole LGBTetc grouping is disbanded.
You’re parking across two spaces
Yeah but I’ve got a massive, stupid, child killing, planet destroying car! What am I meant to do?
Careful, your halo is slipping
For Fucks sake. Here we go with your ‘I’ve got a mate…’ argument.
There is a world of difference between cross dressing and transgenderism.
Some people enjoy dressing up in the clothing of the opposite sex, but that’s where it ends.
Some people have a profound and deep conviction that they were born in the wrong gendered body.
They are not the same fucking thing!
That’s interesting, because it’s absolutely not what people believed once upon a time. We even believed we could cure homosexuality through barbaric treatments such as electro convulsive shock therapy. That you will say this as if it’s a truth self-evident, is a state of affairs gay people had to fight for decades to bring about.
Trans people are engaged in a similar fight now, and just like gay people had to deal with back then, there are people like you who mock them, belittle them, think they understand their condition when they are utterly fucking ignorant, and wade in with half-baked opinions and intolerant views.
Gay people overcame this, so hopefully Trans people will too. And fingers crossed in fifty years they’ll be some version of @Klopptimist saying ‘some people are born in the wrong body…’ in they midst of an intolerant rant about whatever the latest frontier of progression is.
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In your opinion. Dressing up in clothing of the opposite sex has never lead anybody to start question their gender? Right. First thing you might do when you start to question is maybe try a little makeup or your sister’s dress? Nah, never happened.
Why are you so quick to respond to any post about transgenderism that isn’t positive? Just curious (not like that)
And because I do have a mate who does that. I don’t know anybody born one sex who now lives as another. Would be a great conversation if I did. Not with you lot obviously as life experience is irrelevant. Seemingly. Personally I think I’m the only one who actually talks to people and remembers the conversations.
Could be tricky if they/he/she drives an Audi
No. Not ‘in my opinion’. Cross dressing and transgenderism are not the same thing.
Because I don’t like intolerance and transgendered people are at the vanguard of societies intolerance. They are are today’s underclass. The people it’s OK to openly ridicule and mock. I don’t like that, and I’ll always stand against it and challenge it.
Not true. I know a few different people who fall into the transgendered category. Some live as the opposite sex, have taken a different name. A few have taken steps to surgically and chemically transition (which I can attest is not a fucking joke, nor is it taken lightly and trivially as some of you seem to think). Calling what these people suffer to feel happy and content ‘cosplay’ is just about as insensitive and offensive as you can get.
I also have known a few people who enjoy cross dressing, but are otherwise totally mainstream. Straight, relationships with the opposite sex. Generally masculine. That kind of thing.
I can absolutely promise you that they are not the same thing, and conflate either group with the other would be really offensive to both.
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If I drove an Audi, I’d aggressively drive up behind the argument flashing my lights and revving, force the argument to pull over, and then speed off into the distance twenty miles an hour over the limit, honking my horn and shouting abuse out of the window.