Kes
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Still remember the teacher playing football with the kids in that. Brings a smile to my face!
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And mine. I think it’s forgotten just how dodgy school teachers could be back in the day. Our games teacher used to make us stand in front of him naked and turn around. If he didn’t think we were clean enough, back in the shower. Then there was the one who had his printer on the floor and used to ask the girl in the shortest skirt to get his printing, three or four times a lesson. We had an art teacher who used to buy girls (but only the girls) drinks at the pub.
This is why safeguarding is important.
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We were never even made to take showers .Went onto the next class smelling of sweat if you wanted to.We had teachers who would put it up to you proper if you were too cheeky.Have a mate who was brought into a room and threatened (to be beat)by 2 teachers but they backed down when he explained what would happen to them if they touched him.Never heard or seen anything like you lads have experienced and id probably be a similar age (52)to you.
We didn’t have showers, we had to stand six at a time underneath the broken gutter outside and get washed in the freezing rainwater. Then we had to lick the dressing room floor clean.
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The football match is comic, but the teacher is truly sadistic in the shower scene.
It was very realistic.
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The sad thing is I think it is within the scope of a games teacher to teach the kids the growing importance of personal hygiene and hold them accountable to it given how different their lives are soon going to become with the changes their bodies are going through. We had only one of our games teachers be strict about it, but he also came at it from the perspective of ensuring we got in and out quickly so we could get to the next class on time, because being able to clean yourself up quickly was going to be a key need moving forward.
And this is one of the challenges with safeguarding. So much of the stuff that is problematic is pretty much adjacent to responsibilities and roles fulfilled by adults genuinely acting in the kids’ best interests
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This should all be moved to the When I was a boy thread
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I remember one saturday afternoon when I was 13 and at home by myself an old guy I didnt know knocked at the door and propositioned me to join the new U14s team he was starting. He pitched me this plan about how well organized the team was going to be and all the other top kids who’d promised to join on the provision that he got me to sign for him. I told my mum about it that night and she was so angry that some man would come to the house to proposition me like that. I described what he looked like and she immediately recognized him as her old track coach from when she was a teenager. At that point her attitude flipped from viewing him as a potential pervert to someone I absolutely had to sign up to play for. The exact same actions with two completely different reactions to it based just on the trust she had in this guy. Over the next 3 years or so I travelled all over the country playing on various academy teams and he was responsible for probably about 75% of the driving that was required for me to get to those games and training sessions because my parents just couldn’t do it with their work.
There are lots of old men who do this because they love football. But there are tons of old men who do this because they’re pervy bastards. As parents how are you ever supposed to tell the difference because not all of these opportunities are going to be with someone your family has a 40 year history with.
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By doing the driving yourself and being a parent? Work is important but your kids are precious.
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@Limiescouse close your eyes all you want. You won’t catch me doing that when it comes to jnr.
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Klopptimist is actually bang on the button with this. You’re letting past history get in the way. The world is full of perves, don’t let your kids out of your sight.
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At some point you have to put trust in other adults (who deserves that trust is entirely up to you of course) unless you homeschool your kids and follow them around even when they’re out with friends. IMO the best you can do is educate children so they’re aware of present dangers and how to respond to them.
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Absolutely, you must teach your kids to look after themselves and be independent. It’s the hardest thing to do because you’re training them to no longer need you. The heart of Toy Story and the end of Winnie the Pooh. Clever stories. And yes you have to trust other parents but if you put your trust in them and something happens, it’s your fault.
Give them Roots… but Give them Wings also
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His over simplification of how to manage the challenge is shown up within 2 seconds of exposure of the real world, as he has acknowledged in his very next post.
There will be plenty of people in your kids’ lives who have some form of responsibility for them. Even the best of intentions is going to leave a cautious parent with limited control over who that is and limited ability to vet the individuals properly.
Outside school (where checks are made which are utterly useless) I disagree absolutely. Nobody was ever in a position of authority over jnr whom I didn’t know personally and had vetted.
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Understood to some degree, but never letting your young kids be alone with an adult is the point I was making really.
If your kids are in the care of an organisation and find themselves alone with an adult, then something has gone wrong.
Every organisation I have been part of, whether that’s paid of voluntary, basic safeguarding is that you do not find yourself alone with a child. Always pair up. That’s as much for your protection as the childs.
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if there was an in-house head shrink in this group, they’d make a fucking killing 
I too was in the “group shower facilities” era in school. never used it. I showered every morning and my gym class was always later in the day.
when it came to weirdo’s lurking around kids…well not in my town to my knowledge. there were only 200 kids in our graduating class for the whole town, growing up. all of our sports were run by parent volunteers/coaches and it was grouped by school/neighborhood. If you had good athletes in your school, you had a good team. We were always top of league until our early teens as we had really good coaching and some top athletes around (many went to US colleges after HS). Once we started traveling around the province, we started getting our ass handed to us. and, whenever we had to play PCOV or Inter out of Vancouver. The Portuguese and Italians had our number, I had to mark Davide Xausa for a few years and he usually potted a hat trick on us.