No no no
The word he complains about is “They”
Forget it - I have better things to do.
The actual equivalent would be pointing to a random white guy today and expecting him to be better than a black person and building a cathedral.
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No it isn’t
Not at all
If I were stood in St Pauls and said it, it would still be true.
If I say that Black people make the best music - then IMO that is also true.
How are you quantifying this? Can you name 10 black people (or west africans for that matter) from any Liverpool/Manchester band, any UK punk band, or any stadium filling rock band?
How many of the top 100 best selling artists of all time are black or majority black groups (it’s about 20) and in the top 50 that cuts down to 4.
Are you just referring to specific genres like soul, rap, rnb? Or just music that you personally like?
I know it’s really hard, but ascribing a characteristic to a group of people based on their skin colour - which is what you did - is racist.
You said that black people have a ‘different rhythm’ (whatever the fuck that means). That’s incredibly racist. Any comment that black people can do x, and white people can’t - or vice versa - is racist.
We can have a debate about whether black people are more successful in music or not, and you can argue, with some justification, that the roots of most of what we’d call western popular music are in black communities and black expression, but you literally said, in actual words that you actually used, that black peoples have a different sense of rhythm to (presumably) white people. I’m sorry, but that is racist.
No, but if you said that white people in general are just better at architecture (which is what you were saying with music and black people) than black people, then it certainly would be.
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“It’s maybe not that black people have more or better rhythm - it’s that they have different rhythm - just the same as Indian rhythm (which is a complete mystery to me) is so different.”
Blimey Guv you really got me bang to rights there.
In a discussion about musical rhythm - the beat, the syncopation , the timing etc. - You choose to twist the obvious meaning and remove all context, in order to intimate that it’s a racist comment.
Well done.
I promise to never say anything good or complimentary about Black music ever again.
That’s what you want really isn’t it?
Fuck me. You really don’t get this do you?
It isn’t being complimentary to black music that is the problem. It’s your suggestion that there is something different about black people that makes them good at music that is the problem.
You are either racist, or expressing your opinion in an incredibly clumsy way that is open accusations of racism. Either way, a few people now have called you out on this, given you the opportunity to retract/clarify, and you are just getting angry and doubling down.
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I think that problems of institutionalized racism appear in all countries of the world to be fair. Idiots are everywhere, but fortunately, also decent people who balance that out.
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I’m sure I could find you people of African ascent who have absolutely no sense of rhythm. Inversely, there are innumerable examples of white people who have a fantastic sense of rhythm. Maybe not the same kind of rhythm, but that is a cultural thing.
Lets put the full quote in shall we instead of one which portrays the comment in a different manner.
Fuck me
I’m wondering if this observation is (a) a result of the societal environment in which they grew up, rather than any innate ability, and (b) confirmation bias?
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The quote you have selected is hardly better.
Black people have a different sense of rhythm.
This only confirms the idea that when called out on racism, people tend to get defensive, lash out and double down on their original racist comment.
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I think part of the problem is that the former point tends to lead into the latter, through the reinforcement of negative stereotypes that result in actions that discriminate.
It’s very much arguing that just because some people suffer worse consequences/acts of racism, that the minor ones can be discounted?
And for what it’s worth, I think your first point is explained by correlation v. causation. The difference lies in whether being poor at rugby/football is something innate in being Indian, or whether it’s because they just are not that big a thing in India, leading to the coaching ecosystem being insufficient, or the socioeconomic environment not lending itself well to developing good footballers.
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I know plenty of black people. Some of them can’t dance at all.
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Read the fucking article -
Black people have / had a different sense of Musical rhythm
Let me know when this hypocritical and bullshit pile on is over.
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Nah, it’s cool. Black people have a different sense of rhythm and you like the black people’s music, you mean that as a compliment. At least us white people are really good ar building cathedrals. I’ve heard Jews are really good with money, I mean that as a compliment.
Fuck me, indeed.
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Who do you mean when you say “us white people”?
Hopefully not @BigJon as he is mixed race 
Ah I see now
Ask Mascot he knows my skin tone - because thats what is important here eh?.
You all have a Great Christmas - Im sure you will be dreaming of a White Christmas.
Bye.
Not what I meant at all mate.
No offence meant Jon, most of the people on the thread are not reading your posts properly and/or are delibberately misinterpreting them.