Was it?
I think it was more to do with Odessa and Mariupol (like the Crimean penusula) cutting Ukraine off from the sea. and full subjective power over the the entire Donetsk and Luhask administrative zones in their totality. That being a minimum.
You have to be very careful what you read into what is said in politics. the Nato, EU stuff was the bravado to get something else imo.
Then there’s the problem of Russia’s greater goals like total control of the black sea and further. This will cause big tensions in the future. All this support for Ukraine isn’t for nothing there’s a lot more than many think at stake. There’s no quick easy solutions and as the lines are drawn at the moment Russia is the big winner with your compromise (and by the time it comes about they will have surrounded Odessa as well).
How are they the winners? They don’t get the Black Sea blockade you speak of and they get another NATO/EU country on their border. I doubt any Russian would call it a victory.
Sorry but the only way this ends is Putin is ended. Personally I think the US is crazy to publicly disavow any risk of engaging Russia for fear of the nuclear option as it gives Russia carte blanche to do whatever they want. A bit of bluff and jeopardy is crucial and hanging Ukraine out to dry without airsupport isn’t going to lead to any longer term peace.
I like where you are going but any negotiated outcome where Russia gets something while the west stays out is not going to be lasting. Almost certainly Russia will then adjust its target and go again - the west can’t refuse to get involved for fear of nuclear war and expect Russia to respect borders.
If Ukraine becomes a NATO member the west would be involved as guarantors of its security.
That’s not going to happen immediately. Also what about all the other non EU or NATO members around Russia? Do we want to signal to Russia that they can do as they feel there? And it is also vital to peace in Asia that China sees that the consequences of defying the west are not worth risking.
The thing about Russia is they tell so many lies that no one really knows the truth.
NATO, Nazis, dirty bombs, genocide, birds being used as biological weapons, the evil gay community, that this is all is all a fantasy of western media or simply denying Ukraine is even a country 
They throw as much shit as they can and hopes some of it sticks.
Well, it would be immediate from the moment the treaty was signed, and it would show that an attack on a non member of NATO is likely to result in that country joining the pact. Hardly an encouragement to Russia.
How else are we going to end this war other than with some give and take?
It’s pie in the sky to think that Russia will simply back down.
Actually thinking about Putin going down is the only real solution here.
I’ve just remembered that the nations in that whole area are all intertwined. Power generation etc. is all a shared resource etc. It needs a massive climb down from Putin which isn’t going to happen.
The Allies spent a long time hoping for the same in WW2, but it never happened. Even if Putin were replaced, who’s to say that his replacement wouldn’t be even worse?
That’s a legitimate fear for sure. Too many very wealthy powerful people with too much to protect.
One of the reasons that Hitler lasted so long was that the alternative was worse.
Will Roman A. be a better alternative (for the world)?
Asking for some friends. 
After the meeting on Thursday between the foreign ministers , Lavrov and Kuleba , there was the suggestion amongst some analysts that discussions had led to what might be the genesis of a framework for an agreement.
It went something like this ; Ukraine would cede Donetsk and Luhansk , relinquish any claims to Crimea and agree to become a neutral actor in the region (Findlandisation). Both Zelensky and Putin have softened their language a little in recent days , so that might be an indication.
Clearly , Ukraine would be giving up its NATO ambitions under such a scenario , but whether or not it would also preclude EU membership remains unclear.
There’s plenty of ifs and buts in there , and it would be seen to be rewarding Putin for his aggression which presumably would be anathema to the Europeans and the US , but still it’s the first plausible plan to end the war that I’ve heard so far. So yeah , who knows ?
Leaves Ukraine incredibly vulnerable to a future attack and almost certainly won’t be free of Russian interference. Ukraine would be better off with a hard partition - a ‘Western’ West of Ukraine (even w/o Kiev) and a broken eastern Russian satellite - where at least a portion of the country can be in the EU, democratic and part of the future.
That means fighting on unfortunately and ultimately may require 10 years of occupation, death and destruction. Probably something for Ukrainians to decide but I suspect that many ultimately are prepared to die for their cause (which is why we are so foolish to not properly support them).
Not sure I agree with the ‘stolen’ bit.
Every single claim made by Putin and his cronies to justify the invasion is easily refutable.
Putin hasn’t suddenly developed a soft spot for Ukraine’s Russophones after 8 years of alleged genocide. He’s demonstrated countless times how much he really cares about human rights in his own country. And even if he had, he wouldn’t have waited 8 years to act and do it in such a pervese manner.
Ukraine’s nazis are an issue but no more than they are in his own country. There are plenty of nazis and fascists in Russia and Putin himself has close ties with parties of the far right such as Le Pen’s and Germany’s AfD.
The NATO excuse appears as the more credible but it’s also bullshit. If NATO’s presence and potential encirclement posed an existential threat to Russia, then surely Putin’s invasion to a neighbouring state would provide the perfect pretext for NATO to intervene militarily. But lo and behold every single Western leader like any rationally thinking person has flat out refused to entertain such an idea and begin a third World War.
The latest excuses about the Ukrainians developing nuclear and biological weapons are quite simply ludicrous and no one with a functioning brain would find them believable.