Think it requires Add oEmbed Support for Tweet Embeds and Previews · Issue #696 · zedeus/nitter · GitHub to be resolved. If I understand correctly that’s what Discourse uses for native embed, otherwise @ISMF has to do something with permissions for iframes or something like that.
So technically, it’s possible to do the following:
- allow iframes for specific Nitter instance(s)
- use Watch Words plugin and regex to rewrite twitter.com / x.com links into Nitter iframes.
This seems to me an acceptable compromise between banning twitter and keeping the forum loading functional for everyone.
Also not giving out more data to Melon Usk.
Over to @ISMF to shoot down this idea with very compelling arguments. 
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For reasons known to some, Musk is hated. Can’t think why. So we cancel him and his platform.
I wouldn’t because you know, freedom of speech?
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This works well.
Much better than links and you can just paste the hyperlink below/above whatever…
In Thread A, the Man City thread we are united in our desire for City to be punished. Relegated, stripped of titles, financial ruin. We only vary in just how much we want to happen to them.
In Thread X, the OP has called for the banning of the use of Musks vehicle on the forums. Simple?
Instead,
We are looking for ways to circumnavigate the loss of information, rather than deciding on what the OP called for. Ban X.
Of course its a complex issue. The Mods may have a particular view, which in fairness needs to be considered.
The voracious appetite for transfer news needs to be fed? Or does it? I mean, the Unreliable thread is an almagamation of ageism, curry and very little on transfer rumours. Do we really need X for cooking a korma, or calling @cynicaloldgit an old fella?
Of course there is need for discussion. If we observe a democratic process, then its a simple vote? Post discussion.
The Mods may have legal or compelling reasons not to ban, otherwise we all get to make our minds up.
Musk has promoted extreme right wing views, in my opinion. I observe the requirement for free speech. Not hate speech.
Ban the fucker.
Vote YES.
If we are voting.
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Good post. If there were a vote, I’d obviously advocate a ban too. But @ISMF has his reasons to retain X on the forums.
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It’s not quite the same because there is content on X that is provided by 3rd party journalists that is of value. TBH, the only content on X that I now read is from links on this (and similar) forums. If someone wants to go to the trouble of curating the odd gem out of the morass of shite, then best of luck to them.
I just think that there are other sources for that information that work better with this forum.
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Ok
I suppose if we cannot or will not ban X, we can make individual choices.
I never quote from X anyway.
From now on I won’t open any links from X on the forums.
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That’s what I do since some time. The less contact with this cesspit, the better.
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Only time i have anything to do with X is in TAN
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It’s phenomenally useful for real time eye witness news and photos. Transfer rumours not so much.
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serious question here…
what useful realtime news do you get off X that cant wait?
im thinking things like weather reports can wait…if im stuck in the bush in fire season im waiting for offcial info, not twitter or X or anything…same with storm warnings etc…axe murderer on the lose? id probably just rely on local facebook pages or networks…
the more i think on it, the more i think anything that cant wait for verification, wouldnt be suitable to be trusted to X anyways…
happy to be proven wrong…
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The problem is we live in a world we’re traditional media is dying. Honestly it’s years since I have bought a newspaper, I find often TV news coverage to be shallow.
Sources that I once took as factual may have now been tainted by billionaires or becoming opinion pieces as that sells better.
Take the war in Gaza. Most government support and that of the media reflected views of Israel. The right to protect itself. Social media largely carried the counter view until recently. There is a dramatic swing is seen between age and views for the conflict. Most people agree driven by media (TikTok, twitter vs TV news and newspapers etc).
If we take the Ukraine thread. I think I would struggle to find a source anywhere better on the internet not just in terms of real time info but depth. Whilst there was loads of media and attention early on. It’s now yesterday’s news. However there are other things occurring like morale, new weapons, or criticism you don’t often hear. You often hear country X pledged Y. It’s not often you see a newspaper actually follow up on what was actually delivered.
I think that depth also goes to players. Not many of us follow South American. There is not enough media attention for a 17 year old kid none of us have head about before. Social media allows for that niche. Tim Vickery though might make a tweet, even if there’s not enough for him to write a story for the bbc.
There is of a lot not to like about twitter. But a sad reality is that it is the main media outlet of the world. Even big corporations like the BBC will often tweet hours before there is a news story.
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To give a use case of where time is important.
Let’s say there is a major incident on the pitch. If I want to see that tackle from multiple angles and make my own mind up. The only way is to look on twitter.
There are times where the TV coverage has been misleading, I have disagreed with commentators, it’s happened to quickly to make a judgement. Or I have missed it entirely and it didn’t even make MOTD but everyone on here is talking about it.
Often a debate has been sorted by someone posting a video from a new angle.
In the great scheme of things waiting a day or two does not matter. But in that moment it does matter.
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I guess that is verging dangerously on a general philosophical reflection on what the debates should be based on. Instantaneous reaction, even if the information is not that vital and is less reliable? Or waiting to find out the full picture?
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I suppose everything can wait. But for pretty much instant onsite info, it’s brilliant.
I couldn’t agree more with this.
In the immediate aftermath of the Southport murders, Social Media was full of people loudly proclaiming that “WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW”.
And I’m reading this and thinking ‘Do you though?” It seems a bit of a misreading of the situation to think your right to be a nosey, gossipy bitch overrides the families right to privacy, the police’s right to conduct an investigation, and even the perpetrator and their family’s right to some degree of process and fairness.
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