Should TAN ban X?

Yes, that was bullshit as well. Again, you are living the meme I posted above.

Google is a black box, but we do know that the content that was blocked on the SM sites were predominantly from accounts associated with and promoted by the RW. Bit it was their racism and peddling of disinformation that saw them blocked, not that they were RW. What we know of the publicly available data is that from the day Facebook switched from timeline to the algorithmically driven newsfeed RW accounts were by far the most viewed and engaged with belies the idea that content is blocked because it RW. Essentially, if you lie down with dogs you get fleas and it is just a reality that over the past 8 years or so it has become increasingly difficult to separate out RW orthodoxy from ideas that are racist and based in lies.

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I dont use SM, but I do have very strong views on how it works. It just so happens those views are parroting all the bad faith nonsense that fill the SM I dont use.

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I know you live stateside etc but seriously that " living meme" attempt to try as classify me is not funny, you donā€™t know me and donā€™t know my views or my life so please quietly fuck off as you really are becoming annoying.

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I dont know, that is true. But I can and will (when I can be bothered) respond to what you post.

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And I dare say I am treating your arguments with far more concern over characterizing them correctly than you are to the people you are addressing in this thread.

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I gave up on it a few years for anything except reading the occasional post sent to me by someone with more patience than I have (your posts in the Ukraine war thread being a prime example). Leaving aside the politics, the signal to noise ratio has absolutely collapsed. Locally, I am no fan of Trudeau to say the least, but you cannot read anything without immediately seeing a wave of hateful, often racist, comments that make it pointless to sift through for reactions and thoughts about the original post. That sort of defeats the original point of the medium.

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I donā€™t really disagree. But I canā€™t find what I am looking for elsewhere (at least far from as easy), so I have to filter through the shit. I usually donā€™t have trawling through comment sections as a hobby anyway but you are right, those comments (ultra right wing) are highlighted because they have blue ticks.

In general though, If an account have a Blue Tick and itā€™s not a journalist, analyst or business; avoid reading what they write (most people who use twitter in a serious manner ignore the blue tick commentariat with a righteous sneer). In general, only a certain type of people pay Musk money, MAGA, Musk-fans and a few who would like their tweets to have greater impact (but you quickly notice who amongst those are serious people). But itā€™s a general rule that ā€œVerifiedā€ means ā€œprobable poison or low browā€, thought there are some exceptions.
Itā€™s just some navigation wisdom :smiley:

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It really is quite simple on any social media platform, TAN included, to skip past anything appearing uninvited (ie not followed) which is ridiculous/retarded/offensive/of no interest etc etc etc

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I very much agree, but I also very much understand those who think Musk-Twitter to have become a dangerous place, because it actually has become a problem. The problem is not so much Musk-twitter as human psychology, abillity to filter and level of education. Musk-Twitter enables bad people to spread bad propaganda to gullible people in a very effective manner.

I am going to say something very controversial and probably not very nice now, but the real problem is:

If you donā€™t know how to filter information and if you are easilly swayed by populist rethoric and donā€™t know very much about the outside world, Twitter can radicalise some (not Twitter itself, but people on Twitter due to how the engine works now under Musk). That is just the truth. Itā€™s more dangerous.
But at the same time, I need it. And itā€™s still a very interesting place. But it has become a more dangeorus. So while I will die on my hill to be able to use it, I understand why people and indeed, governments and social scientists, have started to identify it as problematic.

Ideally, everyone would be good at critical thinking and have adequate abillity to filter information, to filter propaganda, to detect missing nuances and understand what could be missing and maybe corroborate; but like Osho said in that tiny clip; this is not the case.

I view it more as a natural hazard in nature. I know how to traverse mountains, some donā€™t.

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Its literally all your fault. If we had censored you, none of this would of happened.

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Please tell me this is deliberate.

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I took the comment to mean @Livvy was out of the thread, not the forum

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Highlight again what the sin did against the Liverpool family vs what X has done to the Liverpool family, on this Liverpool family forum? The comparison of *** (I cant bring myself from saying it) from the dead and dying on the biggest disaster Liverpool have ever faced, vs posts from twitter because you donā€™t like the owner goes above my head. Should we ban Facebook? All the scummy things on X can be found on Facebook. The OP ruined a sensible conversation about X by listing his personal feelings about the owner in point 2. Thankfully the owner of this Forum has some common sense.

And when that platform becomes the largest on the planet, and all the people you disagree move over, then rinse and repeat, correct?

Clearly.

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You must have missed the riots in the aftermath of Southport, and what that man-childā€™s role, let alone that Xesspitā€™s, was in that.

The algorithms on Facebook arenā€™t deliberately targeted to show you far-right content, thatā€™s the difference.

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Well, not so much anymore at least, but at peak Facebook that is exactly what it was doing.

Do people even post stuff on here from Facebook? I think Iā€™ve seen a couple in the jokes thread, but itā€™s not like itā€™s used as the type of news aggregator Twitter is, so it seems a bit odd to compare the two for the purposes of this discussion. Sure, letā€™s ban Facebookā€¦ and see if anyone actually notices :joy:

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Not really. Peak Facebook was similar to peak Twitter (and YouTube, etc.), targeted to drive clicks (and hence revenue).

Xesspit on the other hand at least anecdotally has been driving traffic to boost specifically far-right content.

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Itā€™s also notable that despite the claims above about Twitter being ā€œliberalā€, their own internal research pre-takeover suggested the opposite: Twitter admits bias in algorithm for rightwing politicians and news outlets | X | The Guardian

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