Should TAN ban X?

Previously it was easy to use an alternative Twitter frontend called Nitter, but this got less functional with the API limitation @ISMF mentioned.

Here’s an example of a tweet using an existing instance of Nitter to show the message:

https://nitter.lucabased.xyz/_pauljoyce/status/1829558868612960675

Replacing x.com by nitter.lucabased.xyz will load the corresponding message, without ever loading anything from X.

I believe it’s still possible to have a functioning Nitter instance as long as traffic is low. If this works for people, I could look into setting up a Nitter instance for this purpose and it should be quite easy to automatically rewrite any x.com or twitter.com to make it seamless to use for anyone.

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Mmmmh, it seems there’s no preview for those links.

Here’s an another test of a Nitter instance:

https://xcancel.com/_pauljoyce/status/1829558868612960675

Would there be any plugins/API’s which can automatically convert twitter links into snapshots ?

It’s interesting reading this in one go having not contributed thus far.

In someways it reads a bit like Twitter. Someone says something, and then within a few posts people are moaning about the left trying to ban free speech.

My views on Twitter are that it has turned from something that was genuinely useful and exciting, into a really unpleasant hive of racists and fascists, tinpot contrarians and conspiracy theorists with dark opinions being validated by Russian bots.

I think it is actively contributing to the decline of civilisation, with misinformation, lies and propaganda allowed and encouraged to spread like wildfire. The recent riots in the UK are a direct consequence of the post first, think later attitude of most Twitter users, not to mention how the site is being used by hostile foreign actors to wage an online disinformation war against us, a war in which we’re only too happy to shoot ourselves for the enemy.

Then in the centre you have Elon Musk. A Bond Villain in a world without Bond. With him it isn’t a left/right thing. The man is fucking unhinged, and he has access to the minds of millions of users of his platform.

Which brings us to the idea of a ban from TAN. I’m not in favour of it, largely because it would be nigh on impossible to police, and none of the mods have to time or the energy to go round deleting posts whenever someone forgets.

But my appeal would be to make yourself one of the droves of people abandoning Twitter for alternatives. Social media isn’t good for you full stop, but Twitter is the absolute worst. Leave it behind. Save civilisation.

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I’m wondering if this is something that can be written up/customised as a plugin. I found this, but only skimmed the start: https://meta.discourse.org/t/creating-rich-link-previews-with-onebox/9808

EDIT: Having read it further, it seems like it’s just the standard built-in functionality for Discourse, and if you want to implement something further, it’ll have to be via the iframe route, which may result in not solving the first of the original complaint.

standing ovation

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I actually find my Twitter timeline is pretty decent.

The only time I ever see objectionable shit is when someone I am following points it out and says, ‘Look at this nasty piece of shit.’

More and more people are using screenshots rather than quoting to deprive the odious fucks of click revenue.

Yes Musk is a fuckwit, and yes those on the right should all be shot into the sun by a giant cannon, but I find it a rather useful source of news and an often entertaining source of wit.

Read everything critically and you’ll be fine, I reckon.

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Step outside your bubble, and it’s absolutely terrifying.

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I don’t doubt it, but I get my fill around here…

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Fair enough, mate, you’ve convinced me. I’ll let you continue to wade through that cesspit, and bring us the gems which are actually worth our time. :+1:

And same for @Livvy, with the LFC stuff! :smiley:

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Ahem

Where is my kudos for highlighting X’s best knob gags?

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I very much appreciate the leniency !
I am fully aware what it has become and that both misinformation and worse, disinformation, is being broadcasted through it loudly with no censorship what so ever and that you have to use it with caution (as in corroborate and not trust hearsay from private individuals who seem to might have an agenda, which is wise in any case in general in life). It IS a more challenging platform because of those factors and I wish it wasn’t. But there are also still islands, some large, remnants of the continents that used to exist, in that swamp and I for one know how to navigate them (usually anyway).
It still remains the platform for breaking news and analysis and we have to wait for something else to come along and take over (which it will if Musk continues to murder the platform, but it will take time). But yes, you have to be careful with what you read, consider the source. But if we are honest, although Twitter has become grim like that, people should be careful with sources in general, I would argue. There is nothing wrong with googling if one is unsure of a claim for instance. I do it all the time myself, long before Musk goose stepped over Twitter.

And now I will go back to my little canoe and paddle towards my isles.

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I wish…
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Cheers mate.

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If you can beat children, I can send RWNJs to their fiery doom.

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Giving a little shit a mildly fatal beating for what he did is not exactly sentencing him to a fiery death now is it.

Of course, this was the film that Blofeld’s cat had seriously had enough and took it out on poor old Donald Pleasence.

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So, putting lies out into the universe that hurt entire communities and doing it just to attract attention and make money is worthy of censure. Yet this standard doesnt apply to Musk’s twitter? One that has replatformed and protected virulently racist accounts, used an algorithm to promote them and those that exist only to push disinformation, and taken many steps to quieten people who try to speak against this. He/twitter is currently trying to sue into extinction an independent media watchdog that brought to light issues advertisers were having on new “no standards” twitter that made them reluctant to continue doing business there, and that has forced them into laying off about half their staff to cover the costs of legal fees defending themselves. FREE SPEECH

It’s almost like you don’t understand the reaction to twitter because you are presenting the case against them as one different that the critics are actually making.

Or rather, he is misrepresenting the argument that opposition to Musk/twitter is because of politics - because he supports Trump - when that is a patently bullshit presentation of the position. He is living this meme
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I have already on a different thread posted my argument for continuing to use twitter, but those who have decided differently should be given the grace for actually listening to the reason for not doing so and not presenting it as some trivial “the left doesnt accept dissenting voices” BS.

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Again read my first post on this subject and tell me where was your concerns when twitter before Musk, FB and Google were suppressing “conservative” views ?

Or is it only because it’s from the other side of the fence to your political beliefs that you don’t care ?

As for trump and American politics in general I have to admit I find it all boring

Way to much emphasis given to American politics …it’s a complete shit show long before trump and will continue to long after imo

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Conservative views aren’t suppressed. Wouldn’t want them to be. Racist ones are. A big problem with recent free speech wars, are that many modern conservatives seem to think that their racism is a legitimate viewpoint that they are entitled to hold and should be protected.

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