I definitely prefer a City win.
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Pity they can’t both lose. A draw is the next best thing.
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City beat them, then get deducted points?
Both lose!
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City arent getting points deducted this season.
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The last 2 league games were draws.
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Tbf we’d be absolutely raging if that red card was given against us.
Agree that we need to stamp out the cynical fouls but currently you see yellow cards for that in almost every game.
Anyway, fuck’em
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Really? I thought it was given for the studs on the ankle/shin whichever it was?
The Arsenal red ended making an interesting bookend with the yellow Enciso got for taking down Endo. Enciso’s tackle was horrendous, and looked so bad you immediately thought it could be red. However Enciso pretty clearly realized he had timed it wrong and turned his boot to avoid stud contact. A bad yellow, but very clearly at the last second minimized what would have been a violent collision.
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Yes. The talk about what we may want refs to do for cynical fouls is not really relevant to what happened.
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I agree with that, its reckless but he makes a clear attempt to pull out. I didn’t see it live but after watching the highlights I didn’t think it was as bad as a lot of people have made out. It’s a young player making a poor decision and trying his best not to follow through. He couldn’t complain if he was given a red but yellow was ok with me.
Lewis-Skelly on the other hand made sure he got the player and didn’t seem to care what he did to take him out.
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My thoughts exactly - had he got a red he would not have had much basis for complaint, and VAR probably would not have bailed him out
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There’s a lot worse of those every game also.
I don’t care but just saying we wouldn’t be happy
Don’t know about you, but I’d have more of a problem with whoever did it, than the referee.
Yeah, as always its the ones for which refs dont give a red that makes fans feel aggrieved when one like this is given against them. It clearly meets the criteria, but then you see shit like the double crunch of Kovacic on Arsenal players a year or two ago get waved away with a just single yellow for the collection and it leaves you scratching your head.
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2 yellows in one, 1 for the cynical and the 2nd for a reckless challenge 
This part of my post that started this discussion is where the issue is and as Limiescouse says, the laws don’t cover it being a red apart from possibly classifying the foul as endagering the safety of the player (studs) or using excessive force, which woul be harsh compared to the Enciso foul on Endo
Our biggest threat to winning the premier league, shame wolves could not hold them yesterday, I do think arsenal red was harsh but I hope Oliver keeps giving them reds.
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Jamie?
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Twist.
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Someone did make a point that they keep getting these reds even though they keep moaning.
Since Klopp left have they found a new annoyance?
Slot’s kept his powder dry and if I’m honest I think it’s the best route. Channel it through private comms. These guys are spiteful fucks and even when they massively fuck up like last year they and their media bumchums still seem to make it our fault.
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