That likely depends on the UK’s contract with AZ. It would not surprise me if the AZ one was less stringent than the Pfizer one, because the UK would have no other recourse against Pfizer.
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I’m not entirely convinced yet that Pfizer or Astra Zeneca really would want to play hardball with the EU. All a bit heated atm.
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From the outside, the EU looks like the aggressive party here. Both companies have delayed deliveries to many places. The EU has already ensured that the initial Pfizer shortfall was reallocated in the EU’s favour and at Canada’s expense. Our two week delay became a month, the EU’s became one week.
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Agree - but it also goes towards the supply chain issues. The UK is likely to have insisted on AZ production being supplied from Oxford/Wrexham rather than Belgium, particularly given Brexit. They would not have wanted any disruption or threat to the security of its supply.
I don’t know what production capacity AZ has in the UK compared with Belgium but my assumption is that UK production will prioritise the UK (contractually).
These issues appear to come down to a number of factors including 1) when the orders were placed, 2) where the vaccines are being produced for delivery where?, 3) price paid/prioritisation/exclusivity?, 4) regulatory approval, 5) storage/transport facilities, 6) capacity/efficiency in delivery.
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Sure. Not entirely surprising that everyone is looking after themselves first, though I’d include the US and the UK as well.
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yeah, makes me feel less guilty about our ongoing initiative to terraform the planet to make northern Saskatchewan lush pastoral land…
Hard to say what is going on in the US with vaccines. It is astonishing that they cannot account for about 50% of their vaccines. Where the hell could 20M doses go?!? Did they ever exist? Almost half of what they have rec’d. Their program is grinding to a halt because of stock issues, which they did not know they had - the assumption was that the rolling discrepancy was all in transit or something.
However, this graphic is insightful. If that is happening with publicly trackable doses, corruption seems likely
edit: for those of you who don’t know Chicago, the south and west are poorer and less white. The northern lakeshore suburbs (Evanston, etc) are some of the most affluent parts of the US.
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Right, that is what I meant. AZ has UK production, Pfizer doesn’t. So the UK relationship with Pfizer is entirely captured in the contract. As you say, also quite possible that the AZ contract does specify primary supply from UK production.
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Idiots who see it as something to do, idiots who think that COVID is a worldwide conspiracy and idiots who think that plundering is oké. These things plus a large part of the Dutch people are very rude people who think they are entitled to everything.
You see it when they are on holiday, in traffic, in Supermarkets, letting someone else go first no way (don’t know if you ever have taken the bus back to the city centre after an Anfield match, you look for the end of the line and there you go having a chat with the people in front and behind you and before you know you are in the bus. In the Netherlands they need police otherwise there will be a riot who gets in first, and if you let someone of first out of 100 people only 5 will say thank you at most.
When you have been to Germany, the UK and US you notice the impudentness of the Dutch even more.
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Yes, that one’s currently going through regulatory approval in the UK as well - expected to be approved next month. The UK has ordered 30 million of that one with an option for 22 million more.
J&J (Novavax) also have a two dose vaccine although not sure how close that one is to approval. The UK ordered 60 million doses of that one.
I think both are being produced in the UK (Stockton-on-Tees) (as well as two sites in the US).
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Why do they have to come and do “their thing” over here?
Those idiots probably had plans of jumping Adam and Eve as well.
oh well, there’s a swamp to drain I guess.
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What are ye lads going to do with all these hundreds of millions vaccines ordered by your government? Multiple shots for everyone? One or two from each vaccine? 
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Pick n Mix.
personally I’m hoping I get the one that will turn me into an Autobot.
but I’ll probably get
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I dont think anything has been said publically yet. Those numbers are for doses though so as most of the vaccines currently need two shots to be effective, the numbers are not as high as they look at first.
I would suspect we will find out more as we reach maximum cover and find out any more information on the length of time the vaccine provides cover for. It might be that we have to start giving further injections to people ahead of next winter who have already been vaccinated this month.
If we have them going spare, I would imagine the government would then look to donate or trade them to wherever else is needing them.
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From what I can work out the UK has ordered enough doses from the various vaccines to fully vaccinate the UK population nearly 3 times over.
As @redfanman says, if that only gives protection for 6-8 months we might need to keep repeating this cycle as we approach next winter.
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Hmm 
yet more potential pressure on those manufacturing pipelines although there is some time to build more I guess.
Just catching up and I hope your wife gets through everything ok.
I think if I were to catch it, I’d be absolutely terrified given the seriousness and reputation it has now. Just thinking about it is bad enough.
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Millions of Covid home test kits arrived in primary schools today for all exposed staff.
Well, AZ are manufacturing at least 100 million in the UK, Johnson & Johnson are doing at least 180 million in the UK and the new Vaccines Manufacturing & Innovation Centre is set to open by the end of the summer, which aims to manufacture 100s of millions of doses annually.
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