My understanding is that the EU/EC is considering it - it may be useful to have some influential member states rattling their sabres while intermediate steps like export registers are put in place.
Exports to the UK, not the US, typo. Ironically Canada might even profit from such controls.
Interesting - I guess the UK situation is the one that has likely inflamed tensions - but that is not the way it is being reported at this stage. Have you seen public statements to that effect?
All Canada can really expect is that we don’t get kicked any more by Pfizer. We were just too slow to order from Astra-Zeneca, it is a September order and therefore behind the EU. My understanding of AZ’s position is that they are not going to do any rationing among sovereign states, they will leave entities like the WHO to broker any compromises.
But hey their buddy down the pub got rich right? Along with some guy in Spain and a few others.
The most tragic thing is, these deaths could have been reduced. We have this incompetent and despicable government for the next 4 years.
Certainly the way it’s being reported here.
Public statements are mainly about open questions needing to be answered and geting transparency.
If the EU really only approves Astra Zeneca for under 65 years, maybe this might actually ease some of the tensions wih them to a degeee.
All I have seen is a fairly universal export monitoring regime (“transparency register”) and then suggestions that the controls could be escalated - so no bans on any recipient right now. But lots of international concern because of the demands to have the power to block exports.
Totally overblown imho. And tbh, more transparency isn’t the worst with these type of pharma companies.
Odd thing about the EU request for transparency is that it’s refusing to publish its own APA deal with AZ. If it’s anything like the Curevac one then perhaps there’s good reason for it not to do so.
This! Just breaks your heart.
There are thousands of real stories like this during to Covid. This couple could be any of our parents.
Well, on our side in Norway, we rely on the EU to procure vaccines for us and they have promised us that they will do whatever they can to force Phizer and Astra Zenica to comply with existing orders.
We are now getting 1 million doses less than we have ordered from Astra Zenica in February, which causes all sorts of problems. Minister of Health is now warning about 1-2 months of delay in the vaccination program which is disastrous. And knowing how the rest of the Corona story has gone so far, it will probably be 3-4 months extra instead of 1-2
Meanwhile, Phizer now demands payment for 6 doses and not 5, since some countries are using 6 doses from the glass and not just the 5 that the producer originally states was in the glass. A contract breach and I hope phizer gets a lot of shit for that. Sweden has stopped payment. Irrespective if it’s possible to get 6 doses out of the glass, this sort of behaviour is fiendish and vampiric.
As for Astra Zenica, EMA sits on the entire research not yet publicly published, not just the Lancet report that is according to the Norwegian media. While the Handelsblatt report may be hyperbolic, it is unlikely to be pure nonsense, particularly not if leaked by EU sources who have access to the research not yet published. So I am not sure it gets cleared for those above 65, seems unlikely if the results give 50% protection or less.
EU also needs vaccine ASAP, highly unlikely to say the least that they are trying to sabotage Astra Zenica or anything conspiratorial like that.
Their vaccination procurement program:
I know you understand this, just posting it anyway, since maybe not absolutely everyone does. But we have the same guarantees that a EU country has (i.e. we are treated as a member of the block for the purpose of vaccine procurement).
Fox News should be razed to the ground in nuclear hellfire.
The Handelsblatt story seems super weak and imo they shouldn’t have published that, it’s not responsible journalism on such a sensitive issue. Concerns over lack of data for over 65s and that it might possibly affect the EMA approval age were already well known before and people should just wait for what EMA says on Friday. Apparently AZ are supplying new studies/data for that age group last minute, maybe that changes judgement, but who knows? Since we’re not getting a lot of their stuff anyway atm, maybe we might as well see how that turns out in the UK? They certainly seem confident it’s efficient enough in all age groups.
Anyway, not the best of times for international relations, that’s for sure. Actually not the best of times for just about anything.
Yes. I can only apologise.
Easy solution, take the whole family out the back of the hospital and shoot them.
No need for those sort of idiots to be breeding
Assuming that the report is 100% false how the hell is no one calling them out on this? It appears to be 100% fiction and yet they’re allowed to spout this on a national TV network?
Something’s seriously wrong.
Hope you all are doing okay. The times are really testing. Please do take care of yourselves.
i found this intreging. vaccination via intranasal administration. When you think about it it makes sense. Perhaps the classic intramuscular methods just aren’t efficace against colds and flu?
There’s been a lot of research in other areas for intrnasal solutions some I feel are silly but this appears promising.