The Corona Pandemic

I have had a flu shot once. I ended up - a day later- in the hospital on a drip for the first time in my life.
I appreciate that for the vast majority the flu shot is effective and provides a level of protection - for a small % of the population the flu vaccination can cause serious health problems.

I would take the COVID vaccination and hope for the best - the alternative does not bear thinking about.

Not a big fan of the flu shot either. There seems to be a correlation between the years I get it and the years they guess badly wrong. Most years, I have a crap weekend because of the flu. Some years, I manage to miss it. When I take the vaccine, I have a crap weekend - and have more often than not had another crap weekend when I get the flu that is actually circulating that season.

That said, I will take it this year, and hope they have guessed well. A bad flu season working in tandem with covid could be disastrous, and I see it as a social responsibility. Take my crap weekend and crack on, as Boris would say.

2 Likes

According to worldometer we’re going to hit the grim milestone of 1 million deaths worldwide in the next few hours. :cry: :anguished:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

3 Likes

All the politicians in the world - except the lovely Jacinda - will be very suitable to be underlings of Thanos.

Destory half the population at random as the resources are finite.

He does have a very good point though. Thanos was a pragmatist, looked for the simple but shatteringly harsh solution.

Infection rates going through the roof. Please, no hard lockdown, just shut the pubs and pay their staff. A bag of corn for the events industry would be nice too.

8 Likes

Some governments; USA, UK, France, Spain, Italy, Brazil, India, messed up while some governments; Taiwan, Singapore, New Zealand, Germany, have tackled it pretty well during the First Wave.

Moving forward, what do you think your respective government should do to better handle the Second Wave? What are the practical options the governments have?

Just earlier this month, our Prime Minister in Singapore admitted that the government need to learn from the errors, we might have done some things well, but on hindsight, he thinks we need to learn to prevent a repeat when the next pandemic hits, in the same speech, he also mentions an even deadlier Disease X and that this Covid-19 is not it. So the more we learn from the errors, the better. You can see and watch the speech in this link https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/govt-must-learn-errors-covid-19-response-right-decisions-not-always-possible-fog-war-pm

I feel quite bleak about it actually, because I think there isn’t much can be done now. What we learned from this year is that there is a limit to what people will accept, anything like this is carried out on goodwill, and once trust is broken you can’t get it back.

It’s a once chance thing. You have to get it right first time, and our government made such a colossal mess of things that we’re heading into a second wave with no chance of the public following whatever measures are needed.

That said, the necessary steps haven’t changed. Reduce transmission through isolation, social distance, masks and sanitisation. Identify cases through tracking and tracing, and build testing capacity to allow quick diagnosis. And while doing this hope for a vaccine

But it’s going to be so much harder second time around, because all the public goodwill that underpinned the first lockdown is gone.

3 Likes

I’ve been trying to understand the mentaity of this and really struggled to be honest. Why has the fear of something that has the potential to kill you or members of your family gone? Why as the “its only flu” mantra gained so much traction?

There’s this whole “the government fucked up big time but lets carry on as normal thing” I cant get my head around.

People having to go out and earn their crust to fund their debt ridden lives is a big part of it i’m sure but that doesn’t explain all of it by any means.

50 000 school students are currently in quarantine in Germany. Experts are saying this number will likely double or triple in the coming weeks and with the weather getting colder fresh air supply will become a bigger problem in class rooms. I’m not getting the feeling anyone has a real practical solution for that yet.

4 Likes

It feels like much of the Western world has had some sort of mental break, demonstrations and rejections of measures moving sharply upward in direct correlation with huge increases in cases.

3 Likes

Prime example.

“I dont believe in so I`ll congregate in a mass gathering and assault some police”

They are freedom fighters and us sheep need to wake up. Or something like that.

4 Likes

Don’t know if any other comments or observations have been made about Track n Trace…but why do these stations have to be out of towns and miles away from anywhere. Why can’t the government pump the money into your local doctors surgery (as they do for flu jabs)… and get everyone tested at the surgery…the testing stations seem to be manned by the army and nurses.

They can be awake as they like there’s no way I’m going in a bar to order a glass that the barman/ladie has spat in to make it shine. Have youseen how people carry 10 glasses at a time for a refill?
No wonder the virus ‘winning’.

1 Like

I don`t think you want people that may have Covid19 congregating at Doctors Surgery with people that have numerous medical issues.

1 Like

So you don’t think the projection put out by the IMHE at Washington University below is even close:

It shows a return to full lockdown in the second week of December in England (projections for Germany are shown in comparison)

It’s just at our surgery…they open all day Saturday for flu jabs…no other patients there and its done on an appointment system…

So thanks to the rules, customers in a shop must wear a mask. Unless they don’t want to for about 200 reasons. In which case they don’t have to prove why and the shop manager can’t do anything about it. Perish the thought that anybody should have to take responsibility and be accountable for their actions. You can actually not wear a mask if it will be emotionally damaging. Fuck everybody else…

:rage:

1 Like