The Corona Pandemic

No. Not exactly. Broken solidarity? Yes. Taken doses from other countries in the EU? No.

It’s the same principle that is being suggested because every order placed outside of the EU collective process takes doses from the EU. :man_facepalming:

Nope:

Both accords were signed while the EU was negotiating supply deals with the two companies. The EU talks wrapped up in November when the 27-nation bloc secured 300 million doses from Pfizer-BioNTech and 405 million from CureVac.

The two German companies have been funded by Germany and by the EU to develop their vaccines.

Deliveries to Germany under both deals would start only after EU countries were supplied under EU deals, according to the official. This included an EU contract announced by Brussels earlier on Friday for 300 million additional doses, a spokesman for the health ministry added.(1)

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And you believe that? How likely do you think that is? The EU continues to place more and more orders - do you really think that each time the EU places a new order the separate order that Germany placed before the EU had placed any orders at all is being constantly put to the back of the queue?!

If that was the case, Germany may as well cancel their order entirely given that the intention is for the EU to secure the vaccinations for its members.

Follow up story on the idiot that abused Chris Witty in the street.
15 years old and his mother has banned him from his PS5,she would have done better by smashing it over his head.

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Canada’s Government now trying to juggle the idea that our plan was excellent and is going well with the idea that Canada is the only G8 or OECD country taking doses from the COVAX scheme - despite having purchase agreements for more doses per capita than any other country in the world.

In the end, I think all they have really done is set far too high expectations. It is a classic example of political narcissism. They tried a high-risk strategy (co-develop with China plus build out own manufacturing), then tried to conceal that failure while moving to alternatives late - with awful transparency at every step. Objectively, the Liberals should have just said ‘it was worth a try’, and moved on, acknowledging the failure. High-risk plays don’t always work out, but in April were worth a shot. Even the slow move to alternatives was defensible - well ahead of the EU for example. But to cover the original sin, they aggressively set expectations which are simply not going to be met. Now people are becoming angry.

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Good lord, there is still no enforced quarantine in place for returning travelers back into the UK??
Pathetic GIF by memecandy

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Is there elsewhere? Everyone arriving into the UK must self isolate for 10 days. The quarantine plans seem chaotic at the moment, sure, but how many other countries are forcing arrivals into quarantine?

Australia I think. I’d be surprised if there isn’t one in New Zealand as well.

It’s like it’s something they’ve only just thought of yet there’s empty airport hotels all over.

There’s still something like 20k people arriving in the UK every day I believe

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Anywhere with equivalent numbers of arrivals?

Sorry no idea.

Seems odd to me that there’s still so many people moving round and I wonder if the fact that the UK’s quarantine rules are so lax is a factor in those numbers.

Hope I’m not too naïve… But nearly every main airport in England has a hotel next door…can we not check em out at arrivals…and walk them into these empty hotels… If you don’t want to isolate for two weeks don’t come to Britain…we’ve (majority of people) been isolating for nearly a year now…two weeks is not that long…

The room/bed capacity is definitely there for the reduced number of arrivals, the issue is more a logistical challenge within the hotels I would imagine.

We can find all these vaccination helpers/volunteers from nearly every walk of life at the moment, I’m sure there would be plenty of takers to monitor these hotels…

There are other things to sort, but not unsurmountable, such as security, staffing etc.

I am starting to wonder how much pull Sunak is having on all of this. I certainly get the feeling that there is a huge reluctance on spending money to keep people safe i.e. infections down.

Thailand has had it in place for months. It just hasn’t had the air traffic

Australia, NZ, Singapore, Thailand, South Korea all implimented compulsery quarantine in designated hotels early on in the pandemic.

UK government have seriously dropped the ball on this one. Even if the EU prevented it, as soon as the UK left on the 1st Jan they could have done it then.

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Taiwan, too. We had a guy go for a day of meetings, basically. Ended up being most of a month between the two weeks arriving and staying in a quarantine hotel, then the home confinement on his return - at least that part was in his home, on the basis of an undertaking - but people breaking the undertaking is precisely the risk.

I have it on good authority his wife moved a bed into his home office for the duration. Strict isolation.

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