Over 20k tested positive in France ‘yesterday’.
Interesting that the communication now is that testing is the major factor keeping the number of deaths down (less than 100 a day average). This is due to early diagnosis with a improved ‘prise en charge’ (treatment if you like). This is what they were saying in Marseille all along and what a good number of asiatic countries put in place as soon as they could.
Heard an interesting comment by Julien Dray (member of what left of the party Socialiste) that he feels it would have/be better for the minister of the interior to take charge of the response to the pandemic. Has much greater resources than the minister of health (and solidarity), has a history of dealing with ‘emergencies’ and crisis and also commands greater autority. Seemed like a sensible suggestion to me as the minister of health is well out of it’s depth and isn’t being listened to.
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I don’t think we’ll be far behind…its getting worse around here.( south Yorkshire)…
Situation in the UK is far worse than it is here, to be blunt. We locked down in March earlier than the UK with far fewer cases per capita, and will likely be doing the same in the next weeks. Loads of businesses shut down as 12:01am tonight.
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According to the German government’s definition I’m officially living in a ‘high risk area’ as well now.
Really looking forward to the start of Carnival where we’ll likely make even bigger fools out of ourselves. You know we live in weird times when the local pub association feels the need to urge the population not to celebrate.
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@anon27364116 I know you’re in the wrong part of the country for Octoberfest, but what has been the general attitude towards that RE Corona?
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I’m sure many people and businesses in Munich were disappointed (it’s like a billion Euro industry), but the major difference is that the Oktoberfest is essentially a party event happening in a defined area/location. So it’s much easier to just ‘cancel’ it. Carnival (especially in Cologne) is happening everywhere in the city - streets, pubs, private parties etc - and it’s a whole ‘season’, starting on November 11, which is one of the major dates that is usually heavily celebrated (as in everyone gets completely shitfaced).
Most of the pubs here have already volunarily said they won’t open on November 11 and the police will try to shut down the street gatherings/street parties. But the big worry is that this will just drive even more people to private parties inside apartments, which is much harder to control.
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she’s had less work than biden i think
27k new cases reported yoday in France.
I follow the trends of this and I would say this is directly related to schools reopening (imo it takes 4 or more weeks for a ‘new’ phenomena, like mass gatherings) to have it’s effect ‘visibly’ seen through the numbers.
The government seems to be in panic. Declaring 4000 new hospital beds to be ‘opened’ within the week. Calls on the private sector to work in collaboration with the state sector. Lots of distractions like ‘Oh! look at Berlin it’s worst than Paris’ great however here there’s 6 cities in the shit and 6 more being monitored closely that are very close to tripping the criteria for maximum alert.
This really is a shitshow!
54 deaths.
I know there’s a lag on deaths.
In a nutshell though, what is the general feeling on the ground about the death rate of this wave?
I peeked at England and the first wave peaked at 9000 infections and same day data had about 1200 deaths
With all of the usual preamble about how I do value Human - yada yada yada - is there genuine optimism that the increased infections are a result a better wider testing and the lower death rate is because of a greater understanding of how to care for the infected.
Or is it more like you feel like your standing in front of a tidal wave even though your feet aren’t wet yet?
Thoughts are with those in Europe going into winter.
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Can’t speak for Europe/UK. but I have an awful sense we are fucked here. Bad numbers, and ICU is at about 75% capacity. Case numbers are more or less baked in two weeks in advance, so I think we may start seeing the worst case scenario by the end of the month.
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Let’s hope and pray you are wrong and the deaths dont follow the same wave.
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The news in the UK indicates we are starting to see hospitals fill up with cases again. It isnt simply a rise due to testing.
We’re seeing more areas get locked down, but that doesn’t appear to be helping. There was talk last month we may have another national lockdown at the end of the month because of the potential speed of the increase in infections.
Our testing process is a mess.
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I think right now we’re just on different levels of being fucked in Europe. What is really needed is a second wave of collective solidarity, but at the moment I’m not seeing it yet. It’s like people want to argue or ignore themselves out of a pandemic.
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I don’t think it’s different anywhere on earth really. You should hear the hate for the Victorian government in Australia right now after a 3+ months heavy lockdown. Would New Zealanders be any different if they were under the same stresses?
Everyone is sick of this and that’s probably the scariest thing for us Northern Hemispherians as we head into winter, because unfortunately I can see things getting far worse than any point during the first wave and the populace just no longer caring. There are already signs of that, hell, even on this board, saying it’s ‘just old people’.
We are going to hear a lot more of that over the next few months.
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Aye, I thought so, just thought it was megalomoniac enough of myself to make generalisations for one continent. 
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Put simply no. For me anyway. If anything it just illustrates a clearer picture than we had before. To me it just shows what a complete failure we have in leadership.
It feels like there’a a tsunami coming. You can see it on the horizon. Lockdowns getting ever closer, more of them. No point or nowhere to run to. I almost feel as if we have been left to face it alone without an ounce of guidance. And I consider myself to be lucky. I have work and can continue from home. Others not so.
Deaths have not really started along that trajectory, but cases are occurring at a faster rate than they were this Spring. Hospitalizations have started to move up sharply, and we know that tomorrow’s new cases and hospitalizations were baked in about two weeks ago. No matter what we do today, the next two weeks are going to see the situation become extremely perilous.
It appears our hospitals have used their six months a lot more wisely than our governments, schools and the rest of us, because their capacity is significantly higher than in March. But it is far from clear that it will be enough as soon as three weeks from now. If we don’t get the trajectory down, we will be in the worst case scenario by the end of October.
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I saw someone yesterday say the UK figures suggest we are seeing a rise in cases where the patients are contracting it while already in hospital.