The Corona Pandemic

This seems…implausible? Amazing if the link is real.

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Not 4 or 6 weeks, but … 6 months. This is the time between the two doses of vaccine #Pfizer or #Moderna recommended by the Academy of Medicine for immunocompetent people under 55, which “would achieve herd immunity much + quickly”.

The breakdown comparison for reported cases of CVT in COVID-19 patients in comparison to CVT cases in those who received a COVID-19 vaccine is:

  • In this study of over 500,000 COVID-19 patients, CVT occurred in 39 in a million patients.
  • In over 480,000 people receiving a COVID-19 mRNA vaccine (Pfizer or Moderna), CVT occurred in 4 in a million.
  • CVT has been reported to occur in about 5 in a million people after first dose of the AZ-Oxford COVID-19 vaccine.
  • Compared to the mRNA vaccines, the risk of a CVT from COVID-19 is about 10 times greater.
  • Compared to the AZ-Oxford vaccine, the risk of a CVT from COVID-19 is about 8 times greater.

However, all comparisons must be interpreted cautiously since data are still accruing.

I’ll check the source data a bit later as it’s not immediately obvious whether the authors use of the word “cases” means all such reactions (which we already knew to be fairly similar) or deaths, which would be a new (and previously unsupported) claim.

The account says today but, of course, these are jabs given yesterday.

Share of population who have received at least one dose

Share of population who are fully vaccinated

Was there anything in this in the long run?

Crossed the 10,000 deaths threshold today. :sob: :pray:

VIR-7831 is an investigational compound and has not been granted a marketing authorization anywhere in the world. An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) application for VIR-7831 has been submitted to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Preclinical data suggest VIR-7831 targets a highly conserved epitope of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, which may make it more difficult for resistance to develop. New in vitro data from pseudotyped virus assays published online in bioRxiv support this hypothesis as they demonstrate that VIR-7831 maintains activity against current circulating variants of concern including the UK, South African and Brazilian variants. Based on additional preclinical data published in bioRxiv, VIR-7831 also appears to maintain activity against the California variant.

Another tragic milestone as deaths worldwide reach 3 million.

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Three million deaths in little over a year and still people won’t take it seriously.

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Not disagreeing with you, but this needs a bit perspective. The share of deaths is very different according to which country we speak about. It’s fair to say that the countries which have treated the problem carelessly have had the most casualties.

Then again, we have to remember that most of the dead people we are talking about would have died anyway in the next few years. I don’t want to mimize what that means for old people, but it’s a fact that an overwhelming majority of those who die from the disease are people with a weak immune system, and most of them at the very end of their lives.

In Switzerland for instance, recent studies have shown that the impact of Covid-19 on general mortality in 2020 brings us back a few years in terms of statistics: 2015. So, to call it out very brutally: it’s no big deal.

Some will call this whataboutism, but 7.5 million people will have died of cancer at the end of this year, 4.5 million people will have died from smoking, one million will have suicided. Last but not least, more than six million children under five will have died too, mostly from undernourishing and bad hygienic conditions. Roughly 500k will have died from the influenza flu.

Yes, every death is a tragedy in itself, but we have to die from something in the end, it’s unavoidable. It’s the tragedy of life, and an essential part of it.

So, I for one am less concerned with the death rate statistics of covid-19, and more concerned with, on the one side, the long-covid symptoms hitting younger people (we don’t know much about that yet), and on the other, the mental, social and economical suffering resulting from the long confinement periods.

It’s something not enough known about yet, but I wouldn’t be surprised if in the long term, we found out that these sufferings were far worse than the actual death rate caused by the virus.

I know it’s only a tiny fraction of what you’re talking about, but there have now been a couple of studies that suggest the much expected, and sometimes spoken about as if it was fact, increase in suicides’ as a result of isolation simply didn’t happen. It’s certainly not definitive, but I think we’re going to be unravelling for quite some time what the impacts were and why we experienced them.

To be fair, you can’t judge Covid v Liberty on 3,000,000 deaths. You have to judge on where we’d be now had societies done nothing to try and prevents its spread. And that would be a scary place indeed.

Yeah, there is a lot more research to be done into that. It’s too early to make any judgments yet.

I’m not arguing that point, of course prevention was necessary. But the consequences of that could still be terrible once the dust settles down…