The Corona Pandemic

There have been vaccines which have failed too. The Sinovac for example. Abject failure in Chile,UAE. One can only speculate the case in China

Yeah, both China’s main ones are proving to be poor. I had a comment in my initial draft but cut that point.

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We are using Sinovac (and Sputnik to some extent) currently.

The failure of the Indian company and the govt to supply Astra Zeneca to you guys in time has what led other countries to take Sinovac. The efficacy i think was shown to be 50% or thereabouts. Just look at the rising cases in Chile and UAE.

Sputnik is a good vaccine candidate and if you have a chance to go for that , Please do.

The vaccine production in India has been ramped up but i suspect it will take until september till the vaccines get dispatched again. Atleast until when there’s some sanity in the Indian vaccination process.

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I think we have 15 mil Sinovac and 10 mil Sputnik in the pipelines. Sinovac has already arrived early this month. I always treat the Russians as dodgy when it comes to delivering as promised.

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Does anyone have any experience of navigating this issue?

I’ve got my second AN jab on 19th July, 12 weeks from my first. The advice we’re hearing is to bring your send jab forward as this is more effective against the Delta variant.

So, I’ve tried to do this on NHS website. You can check availability at your centre before booking, and in my case it says there isn’t any availability. But what I can’t do is see if there is availability at a different centre.

The only option I have is to cancel my booking and then rebook, hoping to get an earlier date. But I don’t know if I’ll get an earlier date. And so could end up with a later one. It all feels like quite a risk.

Tried phoning, but the woman was just looking at the same website I was looking at. All she could say was that it was up to me whether I wanted to take that risk.

Until and unless there’s manufacturing partner for Sputnik in Bangladesh , you will find the delivieries to be spotty.

That, or wait for India to ramp up the vaccine production , That will take till september though at the very least.

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For single dose, even Canada is slowing down.

For fully vaccinated, Germany, Italy and Canada are picking up significantly

Source: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations - Statistics and Research - Our World in Data

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I think the next stage of vaccine wars would be to block anyone who hasn’t had the “approved vaccine” from travelling.

Looking at this , I can only speculate what a complete shit-show the tokyo olympics is going to be.

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As someone whose country has gotten fucked over by the delta variant , All i can say is wear your masks and keep practicing social distancing. I see crowds , maskless in the stadiums and can’t help but feel that it is going to be a disaster waiting to unfold.

Assuming that the lockdown is lifted, still keep interactions to a minimum till 10 days affter the second shot.

It is way more dangerous a proposition that the Euros or Copas. It’s not just the massively greater number of athletes, but the socialization of the Olympic village is one of the primary aspects of participating and I dont see how you do an olympics with so many athletes and prevent that sort of mingling.

This is tantamount to admitting that the vaccine has failed.

Israel which has the second-highest vaccination rate in the world with shots from Pfizer after Seychelles, reports 4.95 new Covid-19 cases per million. On the other hand, Seychelles, which relied mostly on Sinopharm, that number is more than 716 cases per million.

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Even the Japanese aren’t in favour of this. Should have been postponed.

I’m sorry mate, I tried doing exactly this earlier today and had the same issue (no available earlier appointments at my scheduled 2nd jab centre). Wasn’t prepared to risk losing my slot to check availability elsewhere (2nd one due on 23rd July).

The Chinese vaccines are shit. Avoid if possible. Sputnik is good, though not sure about its side effects.

The woman I spoke to on the phone said most of her calls at the minute we’re people trying to work this out

I know people elsewhere in the country who have been contacted proactively to pull their second jab forward. I think it’s a bit of a lottery what NHS trust you’re under.

Any I’ve reached the same conclusion as you. I’m not going to risk losing my second jab trying to get an earlier one. Bloody frustrating though.

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about time we stopping shitting the bed on this.

I’m due for second jab (likely Moderna) on Sunday. hopefully just in time for the border to open next month.

I got my 2 Phizer jab yesterday. Apart from the severe pain in my arm, I now only have a bit of a “buzzing head” and I feel a little tired. But I’m very relieved that it’s done now.

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