The Corona Pandemic

Same applies to double jabs in Spain although we are mostly Pfizer. However, I see now they are considering allowing EU double jabbed. We shall see.

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Perhaps something got lost in translation :smiley: but when I travel to Spain, my two jabs and a negative PCR test are enough, I don’t have to go in quarantine.

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Why is France always the exception? :cry:

french cest la vie GIF

Excellent news for me personally, at the end of august we will be in the UK for 4 weeks due to two postponed vacations and it saves us a lot of time and money.

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150 quid down the drain!

Something missing from the discussion of additional risk mitigation mandates (like masking and allowance for large gatherings) in a post-vaccine world is the role of exposure. So much of the discussion focuses on ideas like “removing mask mandates only exposes the unvaccinated so you dont have anything to worry about.”

Ignoring the sociopathic element of not giving a shit if large portion of the community you live in is coming down with a potentially fatal infectious disease, its just not even true about individual risk. The protection levels for these vaccines cited in the studies are based on an average level of exposure of those who were being studied. In most cases, those were environments were significant mitigation efforts were being taken. That means if the environment changes and your exposure goes up, as is the case with removing mask mandates for everyone in a country where up to 50% are not fully vaccinated, your exposure has gone way up and so your protection is no longer anywhere close to the 90% cited in the studies.

I now have 3 friends who are fully vaccinated who have become infected, two of whom are symptomatic. Two of these are a married couple and the symptomatic case came second, and a result of misunderstanding the above - I’m vaccinated so I’m protected. No, making our with your infected wife presents a way higher level of exposure than average.

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Well, thankfully I’m still at minimal risk then.
[sobs]

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What about making out with somebody else’s infected wife? :thinking:

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As I mentionned before my worry is that we are not anywhere near a post vaccine world, country maybe but world nowhere near.
Add to your point that these ‘vaccinated world’ people go galivanting all over the world surely there is elevated risks for all kinds of nasty backlashes.

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91 further deaths reported today. Number of cases detected up very slightly.

I really have no problem with opening up but abandoning the mandating of masks is ludicrous.

People are behaving as if the danger has passed and that’s directly on the messaging from the government.

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(Not sure who will get this but it is what it is). Unfortuneately it was the only Parce que! gif I found that made ant sense to how the 2 words are used.

I am getting my first jab tomorrow. Not sure which one it is, but it is either Phizer or Moderna. Looking forward to being eventually fully vaccinated. I think I am in the last vaccine batch. Some boneheaded people say no thanks but we have strong numbers with a bit more than 90 percent agreeing to take the vaccine.

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Mais pourquoi est-il aussi méchant?

Got my first jab cirka 30 min ago. Feeling okay enough. Just got out after waiting the mandatory 20 min for bi-effects. My vaccine is phizer. My next dose will be om 21.10.2021 at 1236.

Very happy to have recieved the first jab. I noticed many of my friends, even from different municipalities, were also vaccinated today, so apparantly many from this last age group to be vaccinated got their’s today.

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yeah i had the Phizer…arm was a bit sore for a bit…more so than any other jab

im a bit wary of the second dose…ive heard it gets a bit rough…

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My second passed well just lost all strength in my jabbed arm for a few hours though no real pain.
Everyone else I know who got Pfizer (that’s everyone I know) didn’t get much except 1 (younger 1/2 sister of my kids) she got it really rough. Said she felt like a horde was thumping her all over.

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The flu like symptoms are a bit of a crap shoot, but the best predictors I have seen of whether you’ll get them are 1) if you’ve had strong reactions to other vaccines before, and 2) whether you’ve had Covid.

I’ve had a tropical vaccine (maybe yellow fever) that put me in bed for 2 days, and have had covid and so I was primed for a big reaction to the second dose of Pfizer, but even that was only about 24 hours of symptoms which I could mostly work through (albeit while taking naps and showering 4 times throughout the day because of the fever sweats).

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