The Corona Pandemic

Where has that figure come from please. I think UK numbers are below that (I need to check)

Divide the current 7-day average deaths versus peak 7-day average deaths.

Longer intervals between first and second dose and second dose and booster seem pretty clearly to provide greater immunity, but has to be balanced against the potential for limited immunity in the interval. It’s the sort of question I spent a lot of time considering (both this and mix and match) and in the end just went with both 2nd and 3rd dose as soon as they were available.

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Further to the discussion about political allegiance and vax hesitancy

Done this now.

UK second wave peak was 1248 deaths per day :flushed:
First week in November it peaked again at 171 deaths per day

I make that an 86% drop, which would be even higher if we remove those deaths that are from unvaccinated people.

I’ll concede that there’s a lot of other metrics that may / may not be in play here now such as age etc. but that looks pretty successful to me.

But it’s trying to understand the full case load that is of real interest to me at the moment. Numbers are high, still trending upward, and have been there since August.

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That’s only partly explained by attitudes to Vax and NPI though. In general, these states are financially poorer, have less healthcare resources and so have higher mortality across the board. The whole anti-science RE covid is just the double whammy.

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UK is a pretty clear case. 70% vaccination rate. Dramatic death decline since beginning of vaccination. New cases still very high. Vaccination/infection survival/improved care lowers the death rate, does little for the infection rate.

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Yes and No I think. The high cases and maintaining those levels coincides with fully opening up so comparing to the situation early in the pandemic needs to be done with some care but I agree that there doesn’t appear to be much halting the transmission.

I’ve found the page linked below to be quite useful. Lower down the page it provides information on cases and vaccines by age group. 0-19 year olds have the highest numbers of infections but also the lowest vaccinations.

I guess this guy might be the fifth conservative and/or Christian broadcaster to talk shite about vaccines and die from COVID. I feel bad to be tickled by things like this. Do I need therapy?

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It’s called natural selection

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Yeah, but he was allowed to breed first. These are curious stories, right? My wife knows someone who was all over Facebook talking antivax stuff. Her sister got the disease and buh-bye. Truly nutty. The right thing, the truly American thing, to do is talk shite but secretly get the vaccine…like Donald Trump did.

Call me crazy, but what about not talking shite in the first place? Too radical?

You probably think the Earth is round and we shouldn’t prowl our flat earth armed with submachine guns. Heresy!

While we’re on the subject…

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On it’s surface it appears just clownish, but it really does reveal the issue at the heart of the “conservative” response to covid - a complete rejection of the idea of collective responsibility. Almost all the public health aspects of a response to a novel infectious agent deal with what we need to do for the collective good. Masks are not about my health or your health, but about limiting transmission in a community. You cannot get the importance of that to register if the ideal being protected is one the individual outright rejects.

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I was in NY last week for work. I got back late on Friday night and on saturday felt a little congestion in my chest. Yesterday I had a little bit of trouble catching my breath at times, the exact symptoms when I I got covid in April 2020. I’ve tested negative both yesterday morning and this morning on my home kits, so it’s likely Im negative and this is just your bog standard winter bug. But this experience, if shared by a reasonable number of people, raises the prospect of people taking their eye off covid and downplaying all cases of symptoms.

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OK, great…

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There is a bug going around that is a right bastard, not bog standard at all. Kid brought it home from swim lessons, some idiot parent had obviously clicked through the screening with total disregard. I am not sure if it is a matter of not having been infected with anything for nearly two years, but it has hit hard. Rapid tests said negative, and it has not really been in the lungs so I haven’t done a PCR. However, I had exactly the same thought - Omicron has perfect cover.

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Yeah, we’ve had a couple of people in the NY completely laid low by it. I worry about for the younger kids because they’re going to be even more naïve to whatever bastard decides to circulate this flu season.

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Was reading preliminary reports last night of fairly rapid waning of effectiveness of the booster. It’s preliminary data and not peer reviewed, but it’s also a total cunt.

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