No he didn’t. You just made it up.
Fauci stood up to Trump. Get over it.
Wtf do I care for trump?
The amazing thing about this latest ridiculous “OMG, can you believe fauci said that thing?” (that he really didnt say) is the question from Zuck was about why they were not pushing the vaccines to get to market even quicker than they were. The question he was essentially asking was "you’ve done the acute safety testing, and while you haven’t seen how effective they are yet, if they might be protective then as long as they’re safe why not roll them out immediately? This was his explanation of what else they were using to trials to rule out. Again, MARCH 2020.
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If the hospitals are not swamped and the symptoms are mild, there’s absolutely no need to worry. The words if and and are doing the heavy lifting there though.
We don’t need draconian lock-downs for a bad cold. But if vaxed people start needing ICU treatment, hello lock-down and furlough. 29th Dec……
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All I know is that since I had 2nd jab I’ve never been so unwell.
I’ve had 4 savage head colds since August and another one started last night. I feel like crap.
Taken soo many covid tests and all are negative but no doubt as someone who was never unwell I permanently feel unwell now.
I was in bed at 7 last night as I ached all over - whenever I get a cold it starts in my back. I ached so much I couldn’t fall asleep.
I’ve had three really bad colds during the pandemic that I was worried was Covid and turned out not to be.
However, we’ve got to be careful about causal links. Since the start of the pandemic we’ve had lengthy periods of isolation, pretty much consistent social distancing and mask wearing, and generally we’re much more cautious about germs. That means that we’re not being exposed to colds and flus as routinely and our immunity is falling.
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My daughter starting nursery coincided with the rolling back of restrictions. The rolling back of restrictions obviously helped circulate other viruses like cold and flu viruses.
My daughter spent two months with back to back viral infections likely picked up from nursery (she didn’t really have much other contact outside the family), including a trip to A&E after about 6 weeks of viruses wearing her body down.
All those viruses I am quite certain were passed onto all of us as well. Regular viruses have been and continue to be rampant. This is probably what you have been seeing.
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Well I took another test this morning and I have Covid.
10 days before Xmas - great!
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Hopefully it passes quickly and you’re already at the worst of it mate. Terrible time of the year to get it.
I’ve essentially locked myself down now until Christmas to ensure that I can safely see my old man at Christmas. As much as I love the festive hubbub with friends in pubs, Christmas markets etc, it’s not worth it to mean a 2nd consecutive Christmas without seeing family.
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I have been in a fairly grim mood since reading the first alert about omicron, and time has shown that the South Africans had most of the essential stuff essentially correct. With a natural R of 4-6, and plenty of places with an observed R in that range, it becomes hard to envision what the hell can really be done - the slate of measures to get from 4 to less than 1 is daunting even before you model diminishing returns effects.
Playing around with models like this one ( Epidemic Calculator ), factoring in the fact that we are actually probably around Day 35 already in many countries, it is just incredibly grim. You get damned close to almost direct application of the hospitalization percentage to the entire population, peaking in the 2nd week of January. No system in the world can truly handle that. Most of the West has about 3 weeks to get any additional vaccinations to shift that percentage.
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I assume the booster will have the same two week lag as the first and second doses to have peak effectiveness?
Fortunately the boosters have been running for a couple of months now in the UK but I think it might be too late for booster vaccines to limit the virus in working adults wouldn’t you think?
I can’t really speak to that, other than to say I am making the same assumption without any real knowledge or effort to find some. I wouldn’t say it is too late quite yet, but in a probabilistic sense it could be in just two weeks. If the peak is around January 10, vaccines can still offer protection on the downslope for individuals, but from a policy point of view the vast majority of the outcome has already been determined.
Canada is far behind the UK in terms of booster rollout - I am extremely fortunate in having got my booster on the same day that Omicron was discovered. On the other hand, we are further along in getting doses to children under 12, we crossed 50% first dose coverage yesterday.
That’s not great is it… exactly the contrary of what it should be in fact…
I wonder if the global outcome of all this shit in terms of psychological suffering (lots and lots of depression especially among young people in all developed countries), additional poverty (if not straight death by lack of subsistance in poor countries) and unwanted/unexpected physical effects also in rich countries, will not be worse in the end than the effects of the actual virus.
I’m having issues with this right now. I don’t really want my 7yo vaccinated yet, with his body still so much in development and a huge list of heart issues in athletes rearing its ugly head right now… He has a strong immune system and doesn’t get sick very often. I don’t want to mess with that just yet.
my wife and I are both vax 2x…but I think we’ll wait to get him done. but in the meantime, his first shot is booked for Dec23 while the missus and I discuss how things look.
exactly. All of the evidence points to nCov19 virus being a threat to the sick and elderly in 95% of the cases. StatsCan came out with a report that EXACTLY correlates these numbers less than 6 months ago, from a years’ worth of data. So why are we being pushed into vaccinating young children to get a halved version of an adult vaccine when it’s of little-to-no threat to them? The vaccine doesn’t even stop the spread of the virus, just the effect it has on the individual’s body.
it makes NO SENSE whatsoever.
I can understand the concern, but there is a staggering amount of disinformation out there. Myocarditis has been observed as an effect of vaccines. However, it has been observed as an effect of covid at what appear to be significantly higher levels of incidence. Consider the percentage of NHL players that are double-vaccinated, but so far it appears that only Josh Archibald has had his career destroyed by myocarditis.
As for the scenario of not getting vaccinated but not getting exposed to covid, I think the probabilities of that are vanishingly small now.
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I would disagree strongly. Look at the percentage of serious cases in 6-12 years - sure, it is small, but you have a huge denominator, that is a ton of cases and the percentage is small comfort if your family has one of them. If you look at the incidence of serious cases in even one dose vaccinations for that age cohort, that one dose has all but eliminated the risk of it being anything other than a few days of feeling crappy.
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I understand this, however I go back to when I got covid very early into the pandemic (early Feb 2020). we were in a hotel room in Seattle and I was feeling terrible. I had all of the symptoms and yet very little was known about this virus at the time. no testing, etc. We were in that hotel for 3 days, and my wife/son were completely fine whilst I was stricken with it.
If my wife/son didn’t get sick from it over that two month period of my sickness/recovery, then they are going to be fine. Because for certain, they were exposed. It would seem their immune systems are stronger than mine.
Thankfully it appears to be much much quicker. We’re talking a matter of days. Also remember that for most people the original dosings were taking us from a level of no immunity. For most people now, they go into the booster with some level of preexisting immunity meaning the period between shot and max effect is practically different as well.
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