I haven’t been arsed to do a direct comparison, but I’d genuinely be shocked if Roy was doing worse over the same number of games than Amorim is doing for this lot.
I actually expect them to beat Sociedad over the two legs. Sociedad are very middling, they defend pretty well, but can’t score for toffee. If they can take it to Old Trafford with a 1 or two goal lead then they have a chance if they just sit back and shithouse in the second leg, but I reckon even this United side will have too much for them. Haven’t seen the rest of United’s bracket, but there aren’t a lot of decent teams in that comp outside of maybe Lazio, Lyon, and Athletic Club.
A quick glance has shown me that United would likely face Lyon in a theoretical QF, so that’s probably where their season ends. In normal circumstances, you’d expect Amorim to be sacked at that point given United’s historical propensity of sacking managers that don’t qualify for CL football, but at this point I genuinely think they can’t afford to sack another manager. The cost of paying out his and his staff’s contracts would likely see them in PSR trouble. I reckon he’s in way over his head and hasn’t a clue how to manage a team the size of United in a league like the PL. They’re proper fucked, in other words.
We were 4 points clear of relegation zone when Hodgson was sacked. The difference is we’ve only appoint a ‘Roy’ once whereas united have had about 6 of them
The best thing about that thread over the last few months is how the people defending Amorim increasingly look stupid and their arguments keep looking more and more idiotic with each passing game.
Although I am losing confidence in his abilities, we must not fall into the temptation of changing manager before he has had a chance to have a pre-season and bring in suitable candidates. If he is getting absolutely nowhere by Dec 2025, then maybe we can consider playing low-block counter-attacking football to stabilise things. In which case, getting Rashford back and buying players suited to this style is preferred. Then we can go down the Southgate route. After all, this brand of football is not crazy hard to coach? We may need to learn to crawl properly again before dreaming of running.
“We can consider playing low block counter-attacking football”
What the fuck do they call what they’re currently doing? They play 5 at the back almost all of the time, and usually one or two defensive mids. Fucking nonsense.
The psychology of it is really different. Roy was a manager who came in, some thought safe hands, some thought terrible fit. It didn’t work out. He was dismissed, Kenny came in, and even if the results didn’t change right away, the feel damn sure did. I will never forget that first match in the FA Cup versus ManU - you could tell the mentality of the side had changed.
By contrast, Amorim is the guy who was supposed to fix the terrible situation. Instead, he has made Ten Haag look rather better. The arc of the season is so much worse.
Was looking at our last ten and that season under Kenny after he took over ends really well. You want to see something but here we are 2 months on and we are still finding it highly amusing