The Middle East Thread

In the 1992 the Left accounted for virtually half of the seats in the Knesset (56 out of 120). In 2022 that number was down to 4. Previously , the Right first came into ascendancy in 1977 as a consequence of the fallout from the Six Day War.

This piece really gets into it ;

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/374604411_The_Demise_of_the_Left_Parties_in_Israel_From_Party_Identification_to_a_Negative_Partisanship

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Genuinely the best of TAN, when you learn something new and eye-opening, that’s actually based on something more than just something someone said on Xhitter.

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They might be voting for socialist principles like free education, free Medicare etc etc. But that doesn’t make them left wing.

All of them are against the right of Palestinians to exist. More so after the Hamas attacks. Previous Hamas targets were pretty much inconsequential missile attacks and the Israelis felt confident that the Palestine issue was non consequential.

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That’s quite the generalisation. Do you have any evidence for this claim?

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These are anecdotes, which may well illustrate a trend, but there is no data to back up the claim that “all of them are against the right of Palestinians to exist”. It’s also an opinion piece.

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I was referring to the ‘pertaining to the Palestinians’ part of his quote.

Growing signs that Israel will annex the West Bank next Spring or even earlier. Israel’s Finance Minister is discussing it openly now.

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I’m going to want some evidence on that…

We have heard so much about ‘the day after’ (once Israel finally comes round to the realisation that they can’t justifiably go on killing civilians forever) , but with recent developments in the US and the sounds coming from the extremists in the government , I’m really having a hard time imagining just what exactly this will look like.

The Gaza strip will no longer be habitable once this over and that will leave 2 million people without the means to support life. What happens to them ?

The West Bank will be completely annexed , sooner rather than later. What then will become of those Palestinians who don’t have Israeli citizenship ? Once an annexation is completed the people living on those lands are supposed to become citizens of the greater State. Does anyone seriously expect Israel to grant citizenship to people it now considers an enemy ? Will the term apartheid now become undeniable or will the non-citizens be shuffled off to Gaza to live in what might become a new tented refugee camp for millions of people , or will the whole lot of 'em be forcibly packed off to the Sinai regardless of Egyptian opposition ?

I’m just thinking aloud here and wondering what the end game really is for Israel. Does anyone really have a clue ?

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The irony of Kushner coming in and using his gulf state financial backing to rebuild Gaza as the Jewish Riviera

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I’ve been there

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I appreciate what you’re saying, but that’s anecdata. A quick Google search suggests that this data no one seems to track, however.

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It is important to understand the role that denying the Palestinians as distinct occupies in thinking by the likes of Smotrich. Smotrich doesn’t need to explain where the Palestinians will go when they are compelled to leave, because there is no such thing as a Palestinian. He has said repeatedly that the idea of a Palestinian is an invention of the last century. For him, they are Arabs, and they will go to live in lands where Arabs live. Where precisely that is, is not his problem, not his responsibility to explain.

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It’s like the early stages of the Holocaust again.

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Seems the most likely. Some money thrown to Egypt added.

What do you want? A study that asks everyone to self-report their racism?

Racism against Arabs in Israel exists in institutional policies, personal attitudes, the media, education, immigration rights, housing etc., and has done since 1948.

It’s actually hard to fully describe in words but you feel it from the minute you enter the country. Then entering the West Bank it’s even more visceral. The daily life of the people there

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Unironically, yes.

You say that it exists in all that, but the thing is, you would probably also argue that the landscape in the UK is similarly biased against the left, but yet support for left-wing policies is rather high.

Isn’t it a little bit of dissonance to argue that it’s perfectly possible for left-wing policies to have a majority support despite the institutional biases against it, but that anti-Arab racism is the vast majority because of the institutional biases for it?

They might have the loudest voices, but i doesn’t mean that there isn’t a substantial minority who disagree.

Max Blumenthal made a pretty good fist of it in Goliath:Life And Loathing In Greater Israel.

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