The Middle East Thread

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It is important to understand the role that denying the Palestinians as distinct occupies in thinking by the likes of Smotrich. Smotrich doesn’t need to explain where the Palestinians will go when they are compelled to leave, because there is no such thing as a Palestinian. He has said repeatedly that the idea of a Palestinian is an invention of the last century. For him, they are Arabs, and they will go to live in lands where Arabs live. Where precisely that is, is not his problem, not his responsibility to explain.

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It’s like the early stages of the Holocaust again.

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Seems the most likely. Some money thrown to Egypt added.

What do you want? A study that asks everyone to self-report their racism?

Racism against Arabs in Israel exists in institutional policies, personal attitudes, the media, education, immigration rights, housing etc., and has done since 1948.

It’s actually hard to fully describe in words but you feel it from the minute you enter the country. Then entering the West Bank it’s even more visceral. The daily life of the people there

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Unironically, yes.

You say that it exists in all that, but the thing is, you would probably also argue that the landscape in the UK is similarly biased against the left, but yet support for left-wing policies is rather high.

Isn’t it a little bit of dissonance to argue that it’s perfectly possible for left-wing policies to have a majority support despite the institutional biases against it, but that anti-Arab racism is the vast majority because of the institutional biases for it?

They might have the loudest voices, but i doesn’t mean that there isn’t a substantial minority who disagree.

Max Blumenthal made a pretty good fist of it in Goliath:Life And Loathing In Greater Israel.

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And speaking of Blumenthal , and racist Israeli attitudes , and for anyone who hasn’t seen it before , here is a short video he made in Jerusalem back in 2009 on the eve of Obama’s Cairo address. The video went viral and was promptly banned just about everywhere.

https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1393278384722128898

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@cynicaloldgit is right, humans are the disease.

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This has been a result of indoctrination from both sides.

Mullahs keep preaching hatred of the Jews against the right of Israel to exist.

Rabbis keep preaching exactly the opposite.

2 sides of the same fucking coin. Sooner or later even the irreligious amongst both the population are going to get taken in by this.

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The end game for them imo is to build a big wall of hate, distrust and total inability to try living together. The fascists around Netanyahou need this to consolidate their power.

Surely some of them are also playing with the idea of total obliteration of Palestinian presence in Gaza and the West Bank.

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This is the most perplexing thing though. Even if all the Palestinians in Gaza , and those without citizenship in the West Bank , were forcible removed , that still leaves 2,000,000 Arab Israeli citizens. What the fuck lies in store for them ?

If you follow the ill logic of these people, the conclusion would be that after having removed the Palestinians of Gaza and the West Bank, they’d start removing these ones too, obviously. This kind of people never stops and always finds new targets for their hate.

Of course, it doesn’t need to come to that. A firm No coming from the US would be enough to immediately stop all of this. It didn’t come with Biden, and probably won’t come with Trump. But who knows after all…

Forced assimilation. Apartheid. Basically whatever is the current state of Israel as it is now.

I’d still say that no matter how pathetic the state of the Arab Israelis is , it’s still preferable to being in Gaza. I can even say it’s not much different from non -citizens in the rich Emirati states.

There’s no guarantee that the Palestinians at this point of time can form a viable nation. Both Israel and the Palestinian leadership have ensured that it can’t come to pass.

Atleast the Arab Israelis have the chance to get themselves and their children educated , live without the (relative) fear of getting bombed by Israel etc etc.

That to me , as of the current status quo , seems far more preferable to the alternate.

And what’s to say that the Shariah loving bastards that are the Hamas and the ilk won’t just do a Taliban and further regress their society.

The girl’s mother is a horrible human being. Doing that to an 18 year old boy?

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Also, don’t go to Dubai.

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I’ve seen what Emiratis get up to with, let’s just say, foreign female companions. Fucking hypocritical

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