It seems just, but justice won’t catch up with Netanyahu. He is a warmonger, and there’s no appetite in the GOP to stop him, in fact the opposite.
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It’s a kind of justice in itself. Him and Gallant will have to think very carefully now about just which countries they should choose to visit. It will probably hurt Bibi more as his international forays always seem to more about inflating his own ego and playing the Great Statesman rather than anything else. Of course he’ll still have the run of the US but Europe ia an entirely different matter.
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Because of luxury and glamour. If you have enough money, you don’t have to see or know, if you don’t want to.
He’ll be a welcomed guest in any of the NATO aligned countries. Including Turkey. Not that I see Netanyahu visiting turkey at any rate.
I have said that if Trump won the election, annexation of parts of the West Bank would be coming. This has been a gradual process now for a year, debated in Israel and what the settler parties want. They was not allowed to do this under a US dem government, so were pining for Trump (prosecution of current war a seperate issue really, it became clear very fast that for a US party in election mode, it was politically “too difficult” to sanction Israel for excesses in it’s prosecution of the war). There have been leaks about Trump being willing to allow them to annex in exchange for cease fires etc. Fairly old stories. I believe it is what is most likely going to happen.
But we’ll see. I think, maybe, that the recent arrest orders may change Israel’s status in the US in a few years. But first Trump must be defeated in the next election, so not tomorrow of course. But the albatross is getting heavier.
But it’s clear what the Trump circle wants. Mike Huckaby and gang has a plan and it’s not one we would like…
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Why would trump need to be defeated in the next election?
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Very true, there probably won’t be any elections anymore…
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Very short answer: Because the Evangelists and Israel-Firsters are in his power base and will partly be included in his government. Mike Huckaby obvious example, but he is not the only one in that category.
I think what @odin_telamon was referring to is that theoretically Trump is term-limited from running again.
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Ah, sorry. Well I am not of the persuasion that his cult and how the GOP has changed the last decade, will just go away if/when he dies or his term is over. I think the next Republican candidate after Trump will follow, as far as it’s possible (since he is incoherant), the approximate same ideological lines and also be an authoritarian, pandering to the same changed audience, immune or skeptical of facts etc.
But of course I cannot know that for sure, but it is what I think. I think the Tea Party movement later led to MAGA and Trump. That it is a journey for the GOP and it’s electorate. An authoritarian journey. I don’t think the train has stopped yet or will stop soon.
In short, I believe that strategic socio-political damage done to the US the last decade is irreparable in the short term. In the long term, everything (or most things) can be mended, but maybe not in a couple of decades…
But this is of course just my opinion. But it’s how I think and sometimes it is so automatic that I forget to explain why and how I think so. But I do not live at Delpfi, so I may be wrong…
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As @redalways stated , that kind of luxury is 100% plastic, and thus, lacks any genuine interest.
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I agree, but others don’t. Western high society often travels to Dubai, so. Eye of the Beholder. But I agree that it is vulgar.
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I mean I wouldn’t know, I only have limited experience with it, based on shopping malls in the Middle East.
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But there is nothing remotely comparable at that price point anywhere else. They have made it so that type of luxurious vacation available to aspirationally middle class people who would never be able to afford anything like that anywhere else.
No, not really. This just hardens his status in most of them. Any visit from Netanyahu would not have been welcome for most NATO countries before, this intensifies that. It is a no-win situation for most NATO leaders, the Canadian government absolutely doesn’t want to be put in a position of arresting or not arresting Netanyahu were he to visit - so would make absolutely sure that visit doesn’t happen. I don’t think the UK would be much different.
You’re assuming that the NATO countries would do anything other than what USA dictates ?
Based on personal experience, absolutely. Netanyahu is not likely going to be welcome in any NATO country outside the US, because as soon as he does there would be demonstrations demanding his arrest, counter-demonstrations, etc. So Trudeau’s PMO will kill the idea quietly long before it becomes an issue. Canadian Jewish leaders wouldn’t even blink at that, because they aren’t stupid. Better that the question never gets asked.
Most NATO capitals won’t have as much care as to US thinking on the issue as Ottawa. Heck, Madrid might even say he is more than welcome to come and be arrested.
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Eye of the beholder is spot on. I’ve never been to Dubai but as a comparison we went to Disneyland/Disneyworld three times when our kids were little.
They loved it, and there are families who rave about the whole thing. To me it was a form of torture. I didn’t want to do it, but I endured it for their smiles. Now that they are grown Mrs ROTW loves looking at the pictures, but the truth is I would have much rather swerved the whole thing.
Vegas might be another example, more for the grown ups. Some people love it. I’ve been there a couple of times, mostly for a nice meal, a nice show, and a round of golf in the desert sunshine. But walking down the strip is a plastic, shallow experience.
Anyhow, what prompted the Dubai tangent was the 18 year old who met the 17 year old on holiday. This should not be illegal! And even if their culture is different, stuff like this should have an exception if they are going to covet the tourism.
There are many angles to the story, one of which is the girl’s parents. They seem vicious, and the iron grip they have on their daughter will likely lead to little-to-no relationship in future, when she is old enough to fly the nest.
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I would like nothing more than what you do say. But let’s just say we postpone this bit to a later time. I think the rest of NATO are american stooges. Time will say otherwise.
Do you think or do you feel?
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