I go to various countries in Africa. Arsenal and Chelsea, and increasingly City, are huge also. Probably more popular than Liverpool which I’ve always found strange
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I left in the mid 1980s. The difference to now is remarkable. Even when it was at its most run down, it still hit above its weight culturally.
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There is already an Amazon warehouse nearby, in Warrington.
These people don’t create jobs they exploit labor and are actively seeking to replace as much of it as possible with automation and fucking AI.
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I’m not fan of Amazon, I think Bezos is a MAGA cnut and nothing will change that.
Also TV rights are far more complicated. Remember Amazon did have some and then didn’t renew them. Blackout at 3pm is another issue I would expect that to go in the next Football League deal.
Though the PL may wish to have its own PL app like the American sports have. If Bezos has an interest it’s probably more in the commercial area.
He is however only a shareholder in a consortium which in turn is a consortium of the company that’s bought the stake.
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Why are their Liverpool fans having accounts on a Man United forum is the question.
Very strange
Meant more in the sense of the IT jobs.
oh no @mattyhurst, dont get it twisted, he is not “only a shareholder”. he is the THE shareholder. Jeff Bezos is the single largest financial contributor to the deal, putting in more than £1 billion of his own money into the £1.65 billion investment.
While the new ownership entity is named 1892 Holdings, Bezos isn’t just a shareholder, he is the anchor providing the vast majority of the capital
Haha @SBYM , mubs got found out
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Why would they have a warehouse if they do not create jobs? Using AI is just good business sense and transfers jobs elsewhere.
Maybe they should go back to steam engines and horses. But then they might not have the capital to invest in us.
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Depends on which countries you go to. Arsenal and Chelsea are huge in Nigeria and Ivory Coast (and the neighbouring countries).
Liverpool are probably bigger in SA and Egypt.
I think a lot of the French colonies there gradually started supporting Arsenal mainly cause of Wenger
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And I doubt owners really look at reach in Africa to say places with more spending ability like US , East Asia , Australia , SE Asia.
In all those places , it’s just Liverpool and United the top 2.
My bad. That the expansion was done in two stages by the FSG was something I forgot. 47k to 53k and then to 60k.
FSG have done really well for the club.
Why don’t Amazon control the entire PL tv deal if they wanted it they could.
It’s the commercial potential here, he will want a return on his investment in that.
Bezos might be wearing the MAGA twat hat right now but that is because his big money is stuck in US cloud infrastructure deals. He’s not going to do anything to put that in danger.
Expect him to pivot back to the center once the orange turd goes. As do most of the American businessmen right now.
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No they actually cannot not. Amazon actually cannot buy the entire Premier League TV package even if they wanted to, because UK anti-competition laws explicitly block any single broadcaster from owning all the rights.
The Premier League is legally mandated to split its domestic TV rights into separate packages to prevent a monopoly. When Sky, TNT Sports, and the BBC locked down the current domestic broadcast cycle, the Premier League secured a record deal precisely by keeping competition alive. For Amazon, bidding on the whole package is a legal impossibility.
What’s in it for Bezos with Liverpool
Beyond the trophy asset, this move plugs straight into Amazon’s business: access to Liverpool’s 450M+ global fanbase as a funnel for Prime subscriptions and shopping, exclusive behind-the-scenes content and streaming rights for Prime Video, and full integration of Liverpool’s kit/merch sales into Amazon’s retail and logistics network. On top of that, he’s picked up a debt-free asset at a $7.1B valuation that’s likely to keep climbing as sports media rights grow.
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Comments on ‘transfermarkt.de’:
‘Schooly_D’:
"Just over 30 years ago, I got hold of my first Liverpool shirt more or less by chance. Since then, I’ve followed the club on and off.
But for me, this is the final nail in the coffin, and I find it fascinating to see that the ‘workers’ club’ now has a shareholder who exploits his workers, capitalises on knowledge as much as possible, and for whom it’s perfectly fine for a few to have a lot whilst others have almost nothing.
How this can be reconciled with the supposed identity of a ‘workers’ club’ is a mystery to me.
Although, to be honest, 99 per cent probably order regularly from this oligarch anyway. In that respect, the mere trickle of protest is only to be expected.
I would have thought that more people at Rheinmetall would have shown some backbone, but the resistance didn’t last long either.
People are simply a mystery to me sometimes, and I reckon they just want to be made fools of – otherwise they wouldn’t accept something like this without a fuss.
Bye Liverpool, bye football. I’m switching to handball for good. This latest incident and the World Cup were just one too many.”
‘BVBFFM’:
"I have to admit I’m a bit shocked. Liverpool, as a ‘working-class city’ and a football club – and what it stands for to so many people – is being reduced to absurdity here by Bezos’s involvement. One of the richest men in the world, who still advocates the minimum wage at his Amazon branches and has always prioritised profit maximisation and getting even richer over other people.
The club hasn’t done itself any favours with this.”
Your oponions?
Legacy effect of having some very high profile African players in the past.
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is this fact based or just an assumption.
Victoria. Melbourne. plenty of diversity in my bubble.
Liverpool and man UTD defo the big two, but not by the margins youd assume, blackburn, Leeds, Spurs, City(genuine citeh, pre oil too), Ipswich, Leicester, Villa…plenty…
if anyone has a lions share of the market down here, its Celtic… plenty of Iorish lads… plenty more hoops than any other shirts combined…(anecdotally) but you can go to a Celtic Rangers game at a few pubs in Melbourne and fully expect for it to be packed out, less so Liverpool vs UTD
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Definitely not, but from LFC’s point of view, it is not in the club’s best interest to provide the public good for the other 19 (well, probably 17) clubs in the PL if the PL then uses the benefit to allow Man City to ignore spending rules.
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The structure of the transaction means none of the capital need reach LFC. All of those things could happen, but given that part of the deal is an option to purchase control, FSG would be investing in a future they no longer control. Every penny they put into LFC over the next year is already hypothecated to 1892 Group at a known price.
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