The Owners - FSG (Part 2)

Yeah. The Big 6 with the global fanbases would gain much more from that. I don’t see it happening. And it shouldn’t as well, The PL is rated highly because it allows teams with much smaller stadiums, much lesser budgets , much lesser fanbases to compete. Teams like Brighton and Bournemouth for example.

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Not sure if this can be compared but all big clubs have their on TV channels (LFC TV, Real Madrid TV, etc) for over 20 years now but afaik they are not allowed to show competitive matches live.

Wouldn’t they cashed in on their club members a long time ago if there would be a way to show games?

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Have you visited any “3rd world shitholes” recently?

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Weren’t no accident I watched Liverpool play in Melbourne with 90k other people.

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So, what happens to the insanely huge £1.65bn cash/fund inflow?

Does FSG pocket it as their payout/dividend?
Does it get invested in squad and structural development?

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A front three of Isak, Mbappe, Haaland?

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i find it quit funny that the man who’s product (the fire stick) has helped illegal streamers everywhere is now involved in football

and possibly looking to make more money from showing games live on his platform…

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The big six idea is overstated. People overseas are tuning in for one of two main reasons. One is Liverpool FC and the other is Manchester United. The argument that these two have had for a while is that they bring the audience. People aren’t getting up at three in the morning to watch Sunderland or Brentford. So why should Sunderland or Brentford get an equal share of the money?

It’s not wrong, but it’s probably not in the games best interest to follow through on it.

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I’m looking to get to a few next year.

Most likely be used to pay off any outstanding debts, return the original capital used to buy the club to FSG investors, pay a dividend to shareholders and maybe some left for capital expenses like infrastructure improvements without the need to take out loans and the associated interest.

They could look to buy more properties and land in the area around the stadium to allow further expansion, build a transport hub to remove the current concerns about increased capacity, or most likely Linda just gets a really nice new designer red dress :sweat_smile:

The current finance rules don’t allow owners to just pump the money into the clubs operating costs or squad (hence the struggles sides like Newcastle have had) so LFC can’t just go out today and buy a team of megastars but if they can use some of it to improve things that then in turn increase revenue it will help growth longer term.

I don’t know if you’ll be able to get your Daily Mail delivered. Probably best to look into that.

Ooh, you’ve set me up nicely there…then delivered the Coup de Grace…

Come on, it objectively isn’t. Some of the housing development near Anfield on the way to the city centre looks pretty nice to me. And every city in the UK has run-down parts.

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They apply for clubs who were in debt like United etc or even Newcastle. For a club which is running sustainably at the top level till now , FFP rules don’t inhibit it that much. Liverpool can show Amazon’s sponsorship etc which can dwarf previous revenue by a huge margin.

I’m not saying Liverpool will be immediately going on a big buying spree. But next season , the transfer budget should be sizably more.

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And I bet quite a lot of the nay Sayers against Bezos will not have that much to say against him if he say , keeps an amazon branch there which in turn generates jobs and other relevant revenue in Liverpool.

For what it’s worth , I’m not thrilled that Bezos is a part of this. But if he is serious about this investment, he should be looking at creating jobs within the city as well.

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No we are at 61,000. FSG have really done well on this score.

Edit: I see @jaffod has already gotten in :+1:

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I was in Liverpool earlier in the week, and it’s a world of difference from what it was in the late 80s/early 90s when I first remember going. Back then it was properly run down broken city left to deliberate decline by the Government. Now it’s a thriving modern city, full of life, and warmth and confidence. It’s one of my favourite places, even aside from the football.

It has run down bits, but all cities do.

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Financial Pillar :blue_circle: The Chelsea Model (Clearlake/Boehly) :red_circle: The 1892 Holdings Model (Liverpool) :red_circle: The Manchester United Model (The Glazers)
Primary Financial Vehicle Private Equity Fund + Debt-Backed Holding Company Pure Strategic Equity (Cash-for-Shares, No Debt) Leveraged Buyout (LBO)
Who Owes the Debt? Holding Company (22 Holdco Ltd); club is legally ring-fenced from debt liability Zero debt — the club and its holding companies remain debt-free The Club — the debt sits directly on Manchester United’s balance sheet
Who Pays the Interest? The ownership group / private equity fund, not club matchday revenues Nobody — there is no loan principal or interest to service The Club — millions of pounds are drained annually from club revenues to pay interest
Funding Strategy High-velocity capital injections, heavy borrowing at parent level Organic growth, strict self-sustainability, and enterprise valuation scaling Club-generated cash used to service corporate acquisition loans

It is also vital to note that while Ratcliffe did not add new debt, his minority investment did not clear the existing Glazer debt. Manchester United still carries over £1 billion in total liabilities

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