The Owners - FSG

yep thats their paper

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Iā€™m not sure how well clued-up Tariq Panja is on finance, and strong caveat, Iā€™m not an M&A professional, but GS and MS often handle deals that are smaller in scale.

Maybe @Arminius or someone with more relevant experience can comment, but Iā€™m fairly certain that whether they went with a boutique or a bulge bracket big-name is not really going to be predicated on the size of the deal.

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Itā€™s owned by one of Henryā€™s companies, but it is independent from FSG.

I dont think this difference is explained by the size of the deal (an investment vs purchase), but more how the deal came to us. We seem to be responding to the interest in the chelsea deal by tasking these large companies to scope the landscape, which is not only what theyā€™re good at but what they corner the market in doing. You dont need one of the major players to manage the transaction of a deal that came to you the way the RedBird one did.

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Thanks, I thought this might be the case but wasnā€™t sure.

Just to be sure though, have you watched 10 complete M&A deals yet? Canā€™t trust you otherwiseā€¦

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Disagree. However thatā€™s another discussion altogether.

So exactly the point we made, something serious is being felt out. Personally reckon itā€™s beyond that and we are in talks with someone.

He works for the New York Times in Finance.

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You mean in Sports.

There MAY be more to the story. But the story is also able to be fully explained by what FSG have gone on record saying, which is a position they have long been clear on.

To me, their ownership has always been based on vertical integration that makes the overall value of the FSG company more valuable than the sum of its parts. If they have decided that the landscape is changing the efficiencies those integrations bring (and I always felt one was control over tv rights, which ESL might have given them) then you can see them seeing this as the high point of their investment and piggy backing off the chelsea interest to cash out now. Itā€™s entirely believable. It just doesnt HAVE to be the explanation for what weā€™re seeing.

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It could be either, personally think a sale is on the cards. Reports like today out of nowhere, arent a stab in the dark click bait thing. The banks being used would lend weight to this view.

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As would the statement from FSG. They never deny the club is for sale, or say they are going to keep a majority stake in the club. It would be a very easy story to kill if they wanted to.

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Heā€™s written multiple finance related pieces. Iā€™d take his stance on this over a pedantic twat on a forum.

Mr contrary pipes up guess where his stance is the opposite of others hahaha. Has Keita given you your reach around yet?

not to get all political, but there are no good fucking billionaires.

Iā€™d rather we donā€™t get taken over by a nation state with a dodgy human rights record but other than that Iā€™m six or half a dozen. Main thing is that the fans - via Spirit of Shankly Iā€™d suspect - are very involved in overseeing the process in their new board role, given fan ownership (their raison detre) is beyond a pipe dream at this stage.

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What an odious little child.

Do you think ā€œfinanceā€ is a single field where someone who has written about some aspects automatically knows about others?

Educate yourself, then speak.

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What about that guy who owns/owned Patagonia?

correct

I dont think anyone is seriously suggesting it is. The reporting is clearly based on something legitimate. But reporting that major banks have been tasked with proactively finding the investment the club has long been prepared for and open about being interested in does not mean necessarily it is a move to sell out.

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heā€™s not as bad as most.

But seriously, itā€™s hard to stress what an astronomical amount of money a billion quid is. As someone else said in this thread said, itā€™s a policy failure. That amount of wealth should be taxed out of existence - we shouldnā€™t just expect them to be good people and give 99% of it to charity/combating climate change or whatever.

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What do you know? Youā€™ve posted fuck all actual information like normal, just troll comments. You add nothing to the debate bar contrary rubbish.

It adds weight thatā€™s the point. When Fsg sold a share tk red bird they used a small firm, why not the same? What is different?