The Owners - FSG

Elon will buy us and manage the club himself. For $8/month, your posts here will go right to the top of the feed and be given five initial likes and two thumbs up.

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yep, and we will do our warm weather break on the mars … great :upside_down_face:

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Well, if there is any truth that this is further along than it seems, we did organise those friendlies in Dubai during the World Cup :eyes:

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BlueLoonies seem quite excited by the news
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Trying to work out if “Perry cash” is one of their made up sponsors or if this particular loon is a thicker cunt than the others.

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And as rosy as that sounds, the piece from Ziegler that @Jabu posted fills me with dread. I never believed that Henry was a fan the way Walker was with Blackburn, but I think even to this day he understands that sports is a different sort of business. He understands that we have intangibles, and that effective stewardship means being competitive and winning things, and doing so without negating those intangibles (such as moving us away from anfield, the way Barca have with the shirt sponsor). Everything I read in the Ziegler piece just screams wringing the product dry for the sake of revenue, and doint so with no consideration of preserving what makes football already valuable. We’re talking a 39th game in the US and a 40th in Asia. We’re talking end of season play offs. We’re talking another midseason tournament. We’re talking TV deals so convoluted that to watch what we can watch now we need to get twice the number of subscriptions. We’re talking an evolution into sports entertainment, not sports.

If this is the end for FSG, I think we will look back in 10-15 years and really think of this as the golden period, and even if we can avoid being a blood money club the sale and Henry accepting his vision for the game was untenable will represent an inflection point of football irredeemably going the wrong way.

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Amazon and Disney are both likely to make big plays for sports to help drive their platforms. That is separate from the value they’d get from owning a club itself though.

If Disney come in for us…
Won’t we be labelled a Mickey Mouse club :0)

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The Mickey Mousers !

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to be fair, im more scared than excited… We are delving into the unknown here, God knows what kind of owners we will get… for all their penny pinching, FSG did it the right way ( even if not sustainable) with putting in a 1st class structure and system. No one knows if Klopp will want to continue under a new regime either

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I’d be sad more than anything if they sold up. And not just for us, but for football. It would feel like Henry accepting that football has capitulated to the petrostate clubs and that without the cost control measures you just cannot beat them in the long term.

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Depending on who the new owners are, I’m pretty much there.

It’s not even just football, but also the complete disinterest (seemingly) by the authorities to investigate the supposed “revenue”. Surely that’s fraud right there?

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Got a feeling the great Bill Shankly would turn in his grave if an oil state got their paws on his club

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I think it’s fear more than disinterest. Fear of the armies of lawyers these clubs throw up against any investigation.

Owned and gave it all away rather than sportwashing through a football club

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The outlook of football became bleak enough with Man City. I might have viewed it differently had I been a die-hard fan of some club from Spain or Italy but this is something that impacts my club directly and, quite frankly, leaves me as desperate about our current prospects as Ferguson’s presence in the Man United dugout used to. I mean, how often do you lose a title race by a single point? It’s bound to drain a lot of strength and optimism for the future.

State-owned clubs will not be controlled. They won’t yield to public opinion, the won’t play by the rules. Newcastle aren’t there yet but they will be. Meanwhile, Man City have built themselves an empire spanning multiple continents, everything from youth teams to the financial department is the best in business according to the numbers they produce. Since governing bodies won’t do anything about it, the only way to combat that is to try and match their revenues and spending.

FSG performed admirably in the former department, even though the playing field wasn’t level - they have not been able to match them in the latter. We tried to be smart, they equaled our wits and added hundreds of millions of pounds on the top. I see that @Limiescouse has written something similar to my thoughts while I was writing this post - and I have to admit that I also share @jabu’s fears. I think that they’ve simply realised they can’t take the club further than this and I’ve feared about it for a while.

Stadium - redeveloped, expanded, a thing of beauty and historic significance. Training complex - state of the art. Academy - a place that now actually gives chances to kids and forges decent playing careers for them. Senior playing staff - partially declining but still with so much potential. Manager - the best there is around and quite likely the best one we’ll see in Liverpool’s dugout.

They really couldn’t do much more. I hope we don’t become another state-owned plaything, mostly because I’ve directed a lot of bile towards Man City for that reason, but I can’t see how buying a controlling stake in the club at this moment can be cost-effective to anyone out there.

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Sorry don’t mean for this to sound as a dig at you but just found this funny .

We are at the stage as Liverpool fans where we feel for John Henry who is a venture capitalist for losing a war to a petrostate …only us Liverpool fans could find a way to make venture capitalists look like a victim and the good guys in all this.

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Try again.

We feel for liverpool FC, and football in general, that someone whose vision for the game was centered on self-sufficiency and protecting the things about football that make it valuable is maybe leaving the game behind accepting it cannot be won his way. That is bad for football.

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Would it be good to be owned by Tesla just to give the finger to the petrostate owned clubs

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Earlier in the day we get the draw we dreaded then we get good news FSG are considering selling the club.

Possibly but potentially a hell lot easier to deliver on the inside. And we are talking a massive clout here. I think one of the broadcasters gets squeezed next time out.