The Owners - FSG

I know I’ve mentioned it a fair amount, but for the first 5 years my dad was very disillusions with it. In time though he increasingly started buying in. I dont know whether it was due to the amount of time he started spending on SM that did it, or a response to that relatively lul in success they had between beating us in 13-14 and winning Pep’s first title in 17-18, but by the time they won that one he was full fan boy with a sense of entitlement.

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I go and watch Orient (used to have a season ticket until my daughter started playing football and they changed training to Sat 10.30am to 12.15pm as I like to get to the clubhouse for 1pm) and its (and I know people will say bollocks) its real.
The Prem League is so far removed from reality its unreal. Nothing like watchin a lower league game after a few beers and the day costs about £30. How much is that costing me at a Prem ground? Wouldnt get much change out of £100.00

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If we end up with dubious new owners, I’ll just follow my local non-league club instead. Tenner to get in; cheap beer; terrible burgers.

Sorted.

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Could be worst.

Could be cheap burgers, terrible beer.

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I don’t know what I will do if we get dubious owners. The principled part of me will want to just bin it off, but the part of me that is in love with LFC will find it difficult to do that. My suspicion is that I will retain interest, but it will wane as it won’t feel the same.

Perhaps not unlike the forthcoming World Cup. I thought about avoiding it completely, but I will probably watch some games, even if my interest won’t be anything like tournaments from days of yore.

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Went to few games at Orient when I lived near there. Particularly when my local team Cambridge played them. Good day out.

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I undestand how people are sickened by the way football has evolved but for me there’s simply no choice. Liverpool Football Club to me is the ground , the city , the players and the fans. I can’t just walk away , no matter who owns us.

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I’m not following your train of thought here. Why would we drift downward? We are in the same position as 17/18 other clubs in the PL. They all experience rising costs and the club is better situated both on and off the field to deal with it. Its genereted resources, which are bound to further increase in the near future, may not be enough to challenge for the title presently but they will be adequate not to fall altogether from the top 4.

Years ago I went to see an Orient match as I was staying in a hotel in Leytonstone and in need of amusement. I hugely enjoyed it - great bunch of fans and had a decent crack on with a couple of them in the pub afterwards. It rather depends on whether your enjoyment of the game is only from winning games or not.

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Not sure about ring leaders and agendas, but I very much get if you own Liverpool you can’t let a super league happen without Liverpool being a part of it.

My dad is a huge Barnsley fan, and maybe I’d go more that route, but growing up in the states, it’s really hard to just shrug and move on down the leagues. You can pay something like 120 pounds and stream the games (I think…not sure exactly what the price is), but streaming league one football from the living room on Saturday mornings with half full stadiums isn’t the same as watching a full and rocking Anfield, etc. It’s not the same as paying that tenner and drinking cheap beer and terrible burgers. There is no collective, I’d be the only person in western New York streaming Barnsley games. It’s tough.

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Speaking of Orient, I really need them to win tonight.

City and Toon will have a lock on the top 4. Chelsea, we are not sure how much that new ownership will want to spend to keep pace. Not that different from our position, except that we are fairly sure that FSG doesn’t want to, Chelsea’s crowd might. ManU is in a race between leverage from existing commercial income, and the downward pressure being crap puts on that income. Arsenal doesn’t have owners willing to spend like City, but have massive advantages as a London side and a much clearer pathway to future growth. Spurs in a similar position.

So, fast forward 5 years, the equilbrium is probably a clear top 2, maybe a default 3rd as Chelsea, and Spurs/Arsenal/LFC scrapping for one CL spot. There will be seasons that depart from that, just like Bayern doesn’t win the BL every year, but from FSG’s point of view that is a decline from where they have been - and a decline that comes with increasing capital requirements. Conversely, if a Kuwait wants to get into the sportswashing business, LFC is a great opportunity - the only negative being not in London. Otherwise, turnkey CL and PL title contenders, just add a billion here and there

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You’d be unique. Embrace your individuality.

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FSG’s eagerness to spend will be increased by bringing in outside investors should they decide to stay on. If we can maintain a similar version of our current setup by then, there is no reason to assume that we won’t be in a top 3 fighting for honors each year.

I do agree though that from FSG’s point of view it is a decline accompanied by increasing costs.

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‘Nobody’ is contradicting that Pep.

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well, there’s always my hometown boy Ryan Reynold’s club…

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I couldn’t wrap my head around why MC was invited as every club knows they juice the books, and the SL would have released all their attempts to actually hide what they do.

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