The Owners - FSG

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Maybe Jurgen knew just before he made that statement about the oil slick clubsā€¦ Not having the same ceiling as them comment now sounds as though it was something that was said to himā€¦!

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Evidently how I expected looking to sell a stake in club probably reflective of pushing forward.

Best of both worlds and likely to be America, would not surprise me if itā€™s Red Bird.

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Whatever happens Iā€™m committed to the club.

:+1::+1:

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Seems that the father-in-lawā€™s family( who supports LFC) got a tad too tired seeing Mansour celebrate every league title won by citehā€¦

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Would Red Bird have the kind of capital required? I thought they would be a smaller group relatively then FSG.

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In the piece about their investment in FSG it was mentioned they were running ā€œinvestor IVā€ program that was directly related to raise funds for sports purchasing, they purchased Milan soon after but the time line for both seemed not to fit.

Basically Iā€™m putting 2+2 together and thinking 4 but maybe Iā€™m just wrong. To outright or majority share unlikely but the more talk of investment a direct stake in Liverpool wouldnā€™t be off the table.

Looks very much like FSG want a stake but will be open sharing the burden of funding. I have a feeling whatever is raised will be fairly hefty transfer.

Thatā€™s fair. The way I look at it is that FSG is comprised of the properties they own, including Liverpool.

So, by buying a stake in FSG, they are buying a stake in everything they own, including the club.

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I assume that someone at the club leaked it to The Athletic.

Yes, others have too, but that doesnt mean the person leaking knows the actual plan and could have jumped to conclusions.

Same thing happened before with Simon Hughes saying he had someone inside the club telling him stuff about the talks with the chinese company and possibly with Tony Evans before that on the engagement with Parry.

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Seems comparatively unproblematic, though I havenā€™t dug very deep to be fair.

Yeah, about as much as is possible for guys with this sort of money, which is orders of magnitude more money than Henry or any of the FSG crew have.

Itā€™s difficult to read too much into the success of the Clippers since heā€™s been there, as their transition from perennial clown show to legitimate franchise had happened in the couple o fyears before he bought them, but itā€™s at least been a ten year period of relative stability in which, in a deadly market, they have continued to remain relevant, or sometimes even trendy.

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Whenā€™s Kenny Huang going to declare heā€™s buying us :joy::joy::joy:

Just needs to get the consortium agreement done with the Montreal pizza guy

I saw him once at a Microsoft event. It was about database software and I was quite impressed with the developers. I donā€™t recall much about him. I think he made a fair few errors at Microsoft as he didnā€™t see the impact of Google or the iPhone.

As a prospective owner, if he is more interested in sports clubs as a pass-time rather than a business then Iā€™d stick him in the Jack Walker mould. I could live with that provided he still entrusts the day-to-day running of the club to professionals. I think he is basically a data guy (well, I got that impression from the SQL Server thing) so he might be a good fit.

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I read somewhere that he may have got some unfair stick while at Microsoft with some of his work providing the key platform his successor benefitted from.

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If FSG sell another slice of the pie, it may not be enough for us. The last time they did it they took money from Redbird and boosted the overall group, I think it was the ice hockey team they acquired. From a Liverpool perspective we didnā€™t see that investment materialize into squad investment, although without being an accountant, it probably helped us through a covid-shaped storm, which is something.

If they sell another slice of the pie then their shareholders will want a payday, and after that happens, I donā€™t see too much being available to go into the squad. Maybe enough will trickle down in order for us to have a good window, and refresh the midfield.

But then what? It still feels temporary to me, and there will only be so many times you can sell a slice of the pie before it is unworkable.

Soā€¦ what to do?

Iā€™m thinking it needs to be a new owner. But I say it with trepidation, as there are lots of worse owners out there. We donā€™t want human rights abusers. We donā€™t want a leveraged buy out. We donā€™t want an idiot who is unqualified to run the show, but as a vanity move he tries to.

Once you rule out the options that will get fans protesting en masse, it leaves you with very little to choose from. But there might still be something good.

At that point Ballmer intrigues me. He has a lot more money than FSG. He wouldnā€™t be getting into football to make his fortune. He has already done that. Apparently he is worth $80 Billion. From a business perspective he might think that thereā€™s money to be made down the line via streaming platforms, given the size of our global fan base.

But his primary motivation for buying us would be because he likes sports, and perhaps is drawn to the global appeal of LFC, and the unique narrative around the club (I canā€™t imagine he is a life long red, but he is a basketball team owner, so maybe he wants to branch out into another sport, as others have done?)

If someone like Ballmer bought us and as someone else said, let the professionals run the show, then cautiously, it would be a yes from me (if this gains traction Iā€™m sure we will all learn a lot more about him than we generally know at this point).

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They sold a small amount to Redbird, plenty left to sell to a new investor.

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Also, they didnā€™t sell any of Liverpool, they sold a slice of FSG.

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