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What are people’s thoughts on Mukesh Ambani?

I like the fact his success has been largely self-made but dislike the petrochemical side of his business empire.

Have any of our Indian friends seen much of him in interviews, or is he generally quiet?

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Some of the comments on this Reddit post give a decent insight about him

I was just imagining that must have been his thinking when the iPhone launched. Interestingly the Windows phone was pretty decent but lacked 3rd party apps. Where he didn’t think out of the box was assuming that business users were the be all and end all.

I wonder how this translates to being a sports franchise owner?

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Yeah first version of resistive touchscreens were a bit shite to use for an everyday use. OK for pocket PC’s with stylus and windows but phone versions were pain to use. At least for me. And iPhone even with it’s faults were something new, fresh and joy to use. Limited yea but with jailbreaked phone you could set it as you wanted.

How the fuck aren’t this quotes ignorant? And behaving like a total bufoon.

  1. “I’m going to fcking bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I’m going to fcking kill Google.” (Sydney Morning Herald)

  2. “Linux is not in the public domain. Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches. That’s the way that the license works.” (The Register)

  3. “Developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers…. (Watch it on YouTube)

  4. “There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It’s a $500 subsidized item.” (USA Today)

  5. “I don’t know what a monopoly is until somebody tells me,” (USA Today)

  6. “My children – in many dimensions they’re as poorly behaved as many other children, but at least on this dimension I’ve got my kids brainwashed: You don’t use Google, and you don’t use an iPod.” (Fortune)

  7. “We’ve had DRM in Windows for years. The most common format of music on an iPod is “stolen”.” (The Register)

  8. “Google’s not a real company. It’s a house of cards.” (Seattle Times)

  9. “You don’t need to be a computer scientist to use a Windows Phone. I think you do to use an Android Phone… It is hard for me to be excited about the Android phones.” (Web 2.0 Conference 2011)

  10. “We [Microsoft] don’t have a monopoly. We have market share. There’s a difference.” (Unknown)

He’s a salesman, have you met any?

Ignorant “lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.”

He’s certainly not lacking knowledge, or awareness, or uneducated… Unsophisticated maybe but to me it’s someone bringing energy to offset a very “square” person in Gates.

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Exactly.

Well he fucked up with iPhone, Google, Android and WP predictions. It looks to me he lacked awarness of the competition, and had a poor knowledge with Vista since he fucked up that royally.

But okay, I apologize for the wrong use of the word.

I’m sure he did a lot of great things. He’s not that rich just being an idiot. As I’ve said I don’t know him that much. I just remember him all those years ago when his MS presentations were… ermm… urmm… somewhat interesting especially compared to Jobs.

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Former possibly CEO at the time protects assets.

I’d question the issue you have on presentation.

I’d rather substance than bull, after Tom Hicks, I don’t know who he is and to be fair most of my stuff is Apple and I’m not picking a player in a fight and we are not even sure he is interested but we’ve got currently a show man who thinks he is the dogs bollocks destroying one of the better social media platform out of some kind of vendetta.

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I don’t disagree! Probably for the best as well, they had enough trouble with monopolies! If they had taken that market they’d be heading the same way as Standard Oil!

It’s interesting you mention Jobs, a visionary but also a collosal twat who was fired for being such a twat… He failed with NeTX for the most part and look at apple, best in the business at phones, tablets… Failed for a long time with their PC…

Guess that’s my point, no-one is perfect, any perspective owner is going to have good and bad points. I’d much rather a guy like Ballmer, than a sportswashing type owner with terrible human right records…

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He’s the one who looks like he’s stolen every one else’s cocaine

People underestimate what a shift in company ethos trying to get onto the smarphone train would have been for a company whose entire reason for being was hardware agnostic software. Where they missed the boat was not in failing to get ahead of apple and samsung with actual phones, but in not seeing what google was doing with the Android OS. That SHOULD have been a MS platform.

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Yep… Jobs was in class of his own. Ultra twat I agree. But his approach could sell anything to his own loyal consumer base. Not saying he was selling useless shite!

Sometimes I’m wondering how much success would he enjoyed without Woz

Absolutely. Colossal but successful and capable twat anytime over sportswashing autocrats… :crazy_face:

He’s a bit difficult to nail down and certainly has some donations in the areas youd expect of a mega wealthy businessman. So he has some objectionable stuff like opposition to the to the bail reform measures that were popular in this cycle, but has repeatedly donated to causes in support of same sex marriage and for restrictions on gun ownership. So it’s a mixed bag, which I think tends to be typical of most people.

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He would be what you might call half self made. One of the few sons of billionaires (or millionaires back in the day) who actually got out of their father’s shadow and took the business to whole another level.

He doesn’t come up in the media too much, but there’s two things that are obvious about him.
First is that he’s very ambitious. His father had basically built up a petro-chem and energy based company in India. Now the association with oil might immediately ring alarm bells for some, but you have to realise that India has quite small oil reserves. Most of his business was in refining oil bought from outside, and producing energy. Anyway, in late 2000s, he realised that the reliance on oil & gas would slowly start lowering as time went on, with the advent of electronic and electrical technologies. So he started investing into a variety of other industries like telecom, television services, broadband, online retail services like Amazon, etc. etc. Some of those attempts failed, but the ones that did succeed managed to do pretty well (like telecom and broadband).

Second, and what would be more relevant to us probably, is that he does seem to have at least some level of ambition for sport also. He owns the Indian Premier League T20 cricket team called Mumbai Indians, and although I don’t follow cricket, I do know that he always made moves with that team with the intention of winning it every year. Wasn’t always successful, but cricket is a much more inconsistent sport than football in my opinion.

I honestly doubt he’d be the kind of cash splashing owner like the state owned clubs. Businessmen generally tend to be shrewd people, and although they are ambitious, that doesn’t mean they’re reckless. He might even fall into the category of someone who wants to own the club just so he can gloat about it.
What I can say as a positive though, is that if he works smartly (and he usually does), then he can tap into the enormous Indian market that steadily growing and channel a large portion of that commercial potential back into improving the club’s fortunes (similar to what FSG tried to do with us in US). He might see that as a way to be commercially viable as well as be able to compete with state owned clubs.

Alright I’ll stop now cause I rambled too much, but its certainly interesting.

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Getting all worked up about a guy who we don’t even know if he ever buys Liverpool :crazy_face:

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Thanks for that.

I don’t know if you have had a read through the Reddit link posted by @Herb above, but a couple of the impressions I get is that he’ll invest for success and may delegate some responsibilities to his family.

Good to hear that he keeps himself out of the headlines, although I’m not a fan of his ostentatious house and the like.

Definitely sounds preferable to Ballmer.

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Oh yea, he’s definitely not shy of spending his money. But he doesn’t come across as an attention seeker like some twats cougheloncough. Rarely remember seeing him in the news, and I’m not on twitter myself so can’t say for sure, but he doesn’t seem to be the type to post up shower thoughts twice every day either.

No clue on Ballmer myself, so can’t say much there.

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Woah, I have no idea what to make of that!

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Has Steve Balmer ever murdered someone for displaying their sexuality?

Has he ever imprisoned a woman seeking equality?

If the answers are no, he is ahead of any nation state that engages in such acts.

Like we have a choice?

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Well, for one thing, the Anfield Edition don’t know the difference between “there” and “their”.

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