I think a lot of supporter’s have forgotten the H&G reign and how close we were to going under. As a club, we have improved immensely under the FSG stewardship - I accept It helps having a charismatic/successful Manager in Klopp.
Like many of you, I am frustrated that we are having a wretched season but is this all down to FSG? We do not know the internal conversations. So, what has been promised to Klopp, or additionally what Klopp and his staff felt they could achieve with the current squad.
Take for example the Gapko signing. Does anyone believe that this signing was prioritised ahead of a midfielder and against Klopp’s wishes?
I would definitely love for our owners to speculate more, but that does not guarantee success. Look across the park and what Everton have done with Moshri’s money.
The FSG bashers often forget that it was FSG who brought in Klopp. Under different ownership, Jürgen might never have joined us.
What do you mean? FSG had nothing to do with our success. Everything just happened because simply we are Liverpool. The new stadium extension fell from the sky. Kirby rose up from the ground because of tectonic plate movements. We also discovered a natural wonder phenomenon that spouts money from the grounds of Anfield. And for some reason sponsors have been throwing money at us and they do not know why they did so, they just heard a voice asking them to do so.
Klopp has mentioned about building another winning team/squad so I think significant funds will be made available in the summer and this was promised before he signed the new contract.
FSG have been good for the club you cannot deny that but now with more teams getting better (and more finances) the anti has been upped so they either need to stump up funds or sell up.
This squad has done wonders and we haven’t had a good spend up for ages.
We need about 6 top class players to compete again.
These Journos have no idea about our funding. John Cross says in one sentence - FSG will give Klopp the funds to rebuild - then follows up with - but that’s dependant on them get CL?
I mean, I’m not really a betting man but I don’t think there’s a chance we get top 4. Its got to be a hell of a run and show something that we haven’t all season - consistentancy.
Arsenal, United, West Ham etc have all had a big spend up last summer and January but they didnt have CL football so why would we after not spending a lot over the last few years?
This summer is going to be a real test for FSG.
No, but FSG made enough money from it. They lend us the money that we are paying back including interest and by doing so they upgrade the value of LFC in case they want to sell.
I have no problems with them and I do hope they fund the necessary upgrades this summer but let’s not portray them as anything else (not saying that you do) as an investment company that wants the most significant return on their investment as they possibly can get.
£1 for every time someone says this?
Freudian
They aren’t to that extreme. We probably want the scale to lean more on the side of transfer spending. But if you are looking at pure ROI… you just need to look at the Glazers who loaded the club with debt and took out large dividends. Yes, they are an investment company but no… they have not tried to get the most significant return on their investment.
I think the difficult of the owners right now is that on paper they have earned a lot of money but it does not help from a cash perspective where they need to fork out money. Apparently the owners gave an interest-free loan for the main stand but the Anfield Road expansion used a bank loan and those two probably really hit things from a cash flow perspective (owners and the club).
The club isn’t cash rich. Interest rates are high right now and getting higher, so unless they can get outside investment I wouldn’t want to see the club borrow too much for transfers.
To me, the long-term stability of the club is much more important than a year or two downturn in performances here and there. Our strategy has been on built on squeezing the best performances out of the players we have and sometimes we miss the timing on the refresh. There is a very fine line we are treading to try and compete with the best.
Perhaps I should have been more clear, in the end, they want the most significant return on their investment as they possibly can get.
Thanks for the corrections on the loan thing. 
I was at Anfield on Tuesday night. I didn’t hear a single comment about FSG all evening. Certainly wouldn’t say it’s reflective of how the mood is at Anfield about the owners.
You can go around a ground with some 50,000 people around and find 4-5 that fit the agenda that FootballJoe have - to create storms in teacups.
Tbf, the ones with the non-scouse accent all pretty much just wanted more investment but not necessarily removal of the owners. That dope at the end - “political things going on blah blah blah but my morals are for sale”, I assume he’s from the area.
Thank you. It seemed agenda driven and difficult to believe right from the start. When Anfield feels something, you would know for sure.
Apologies if this has been posted before, but I have never seen it.
This article compares net spend between the so called big 6, but uses a start date of when FSG took over in 2010, as opposed to the normal comparison over the last 5 years.
No surprise to see that Man United have a net spend of over 700m more than us, but I was surprised to read that their net spend is 200m more than Man City.
I am not making a judgement on this, and I am not part of the FSG out brigade, just found it interesting.
Comparing Liverpool’s net spend under FSG to the rest of the PL big six (planetfootball.com)
Cheaty have very few outgoings for FREE. United on the other hand…
Their biggest spend was on Pogba who then left on a free so that already accounts for half of it. A few of the teams have had significant windfalls - us with Coutinho , Spurs with Bale and Chelsea with Hazard; whilst United haven’t really cashed in much, Lukaku being the highest outgoing who was still sold at a loss.
That’s half the story, though. Wages can be a far bigger concern.
With 3 more odd months to the end of the season, we somehow couldn’t find someone to take over Julian Ward’s work and start the legwork on other players that we are supposedly monitoring??
That smells like poor planning again…
More likely they already have people in place for the short term work that needs doing now and other candidates they prefer lined up for the summer onwards.
At what point do we say no to the direction that football is (has been) heading?
Shouldn’t we be troubled rather than simply clamoring to jump on the bandwagon?
Not many signings he’s made for Monaco in the last three years have really impacted the first team. Spent 133m in the last three years on 17 first team players and got 4 starters - Camara, Embolo, Disasi and Henrique (48m for the 4).