The Owners - FSG

It would be nice if they are competitive… but sustainable is more important. There will be no future for the women’s game if it is always losing money.

Thus, I don’t think their approach is necessarily wrong. Focus on development (Melwood) and operate within financial parameters.

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Men need to STFU about the standard of play. Yes technically the game is behind the men’s game, but that’s what 50 years of lost development (while the game was banned by insecure men) will result in.

The men’s game owes the women’s game a leg up, whether that’s directing funds or over representing women in punditry or promo.

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You probably just need to STFU generally.

Nothing wrong with people who genuinely wants to know how the standard of play is like.

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That’s nail on the head. I can’t watch Women’s football at all, looks like they’re running through treacle, but that’s just me being conditioned by watching the Mens game for over 30 years now. There is a massive gap in the physical attributes between male footballers and female footballers and it shows in the play but that’s what we end up comparing it to and it’s completely unfair.

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Well we wouldn’t be comparing (or talking about in here) if they hadn’t invited the comparison by having a ‘Liverpool’ team. Would much prefer if women’s sides had their own names and stood independently at whatever level they end up.

I deeply believe in women’s sport, for a wide range of reasons. But the recent WNBA labour strife is really troublesome for anyone who understands the history of the NBA. Julius Erving was one of the greatest players ever, certainly one of the greatest I saw - was he ever paid ‘what he was worth?’ Absolutely not, because most of his career was in the 70s, when the NBA was shaky at best. In today’s game, he would be commanding nine figures over his career.

I do think the club should invest in the women’s game, but by building a strong fundamental base at the academy level. Buying titles in the women’s game is easy, but it is a fool’s errand.

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maybe ‘critical’ in the context you put it is a bit overdramatic, as yes, LFC without a womens team is still viable…

its critical to the sport maybe…maybe…maybe even not as the mens game wont die if the womens game remains trailing behind the mens counterpart

the choice of word can be debated but the overriding point is that it would be great to give young females a relatable team…i mean, my daughters not even that bothered if they are successful, she loves the mens team so theres an admission of relevance right there…but the point is, all they need to be is semi competitive for her…for others who are just begining their football journey, they need to see a viable female option to support.

its actually a really exciting time for the womens version of the sport as growth in quality is low hanging fruit…my wife does a small podcast and she interviewed a matilda allumini, who can still recall having to use the mens used strips to play for the national team…thats in recent memory for her, not some story from the seventies…

so massive jumps in quality can be achieved by relatively small sums invested…not marginal gains.

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I’m not advocating for FSG to do a Chelsea and sell the women’s team back to themselves as a way to get over FFP rules.

But it will be better if there are opportunities for sponsors to only sponsor the women’s team if possible. There can be common sponsors etc as well as shared resources but it’s probably better if the women’s team was delinked from men.

Would allow FSG to dedicate more resources to the women’s team if they are so inclined.

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Since we have a women’s team, and since FSG have proven themselves to be excellent long term owners/custodians, I would like them to cast their gaze at the women’s team.

If it wears the name “Liverpool” I want them to be the best.

At that point I don’t know what is needed to get it there, but presumably facilities, training, youth coming through, sponsorship, investment, etc. All the things they have been so adept at harnessing in the men’s game. Not a fast track injection of unsustainable funds, as a ‘cheat code’ but a mid-to-long term plan to grow it, and then be the best.

Again, I’m not a huge fan, and I’m from a generation when it was mostly a man’s game. That’s what I know and love. With that said, I’m very happy we now live in a more egalitarian age.

Perhaps there is an opportunity for FSG to be a little more intentional and strategic, to develop a plan to take the women’s team to the very top? I’m not sure how long it will take, but since they wear the Liverpool name, that’s what I’d like to see.

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How about continuing this discussion in the LFC Women’s thread? Then some of you might also notice that the first steps toward positive change have already been taken. Firstly, they’ve hired an experienced manager ( Former ManCity Manager Gareth Taylor, whether you like him or not) who has the task of successfully implementing a style of play that suits Liverpool, with the necessary time to build something up step by step. Secondly, there were several deadline day signings, some of them loans, a good mix of youth and experience, which should help the manager.

Just saying

They have their first game tomorrow at Anfield against Everton btw

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Probably best to take it somewhere else rather than here, as long as I am not forced to read the entire thread :slight_smile: I am sure that the quality of posts there are no different to the quality of posts elsewhere. :innocent:

Maybe the LFC women thread is not the place though as this seems to have morphed in a woman sports thing, and I blame whomever referenced the WNBA first.

My parting shot is a very simplistic view on being entertained, which at the end of the day is all I care about. I want to watch woman’s football/basketball as much as I want to watch guys doing floor routines in gymnastics. It’s irrelevant that a sneak a peek at both.

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How many of them have Kerr, Catley or Foord shirts?

Or are they having Arsenal and Chelsea Men’s names?

most dont have names.

plenty of kerr aussie shirts around the club though

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Another Aussie bogan we’ve gifted to the world.

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A great piece here about just how formidable we are as an organisation now. (free to read)

Free to read here : https://archive.ph/yZjHq

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Can’t access without signing up for a ‘free trial’ - do you have a link?

Same here. Will post the (unlocked) link after getting on to the laptop in a while

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If you refresh the page, press ESC multiple times, and it’ll prevent the free trial bit popping up and blocking the article.

I can normally share stuff for free with my NYT subscription , maybe not including the Athletic though ?

You should be able to get it here ;https://archive.ph/yZjHq

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