not sure but weve stripped that team this summer, i told my daughter to be patient and watch this space…
i cant imagine the organisation is happy to leave the Womens team lull in the doldrums…
not sure but weve stripped that team this summer, i told my daughter to be patient and watch this space…
i cant imagine the organisation is happy to leave the Womens team lull in the doldrums…
That’s one way to get more spectators, I guess ![]()
They did. But they’ve also sold their best players.
Chelsea has won the WSL 6 years in a row and they’re continuing to strengthen. LFC is considered a potential relegation candidate.
I don’t expect them to spend like Chelsea has, but it would be nice if they were competitive.
Unpopular perhaps but I couldn’t give a flying fart about the womens team. Our (or most other) u16 side would have any of them for breakfast. It’s an appalling low standard and really doesn’t deserve glamourisation by association with august male teams. Would be better for the womens game if they stood independently and formed their own teams.
Absolutely pissed me off the LFC sold fellow Canuck Olivier Smith, the PFA young women player of the year, to Arsenal for a record transfer fee for women’s football…for £1 million.
As LFC Women is not top tier … I guess it really is similar to NU selling Isak to us for a record transfer fee.
I think we know enough about FSG now that they are not going to be making unsustainable investments to curry favour with any fanbase. If they see a business case, they are not afraid to make investments. If the business is generating a revenue stream, FSG are happy to reinvest that revenue stream in growing the business. That probably won’t make some fans happy, but they will only grow the women’s side on that basis.
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The WNBA used to receive similar comments a decade ago. The lack of profit, interest, etc. But now the league has exploded in popularity, driven by social media’s infatuation with certain star players. The Caitlin Clark effect is effectively the same effect Michael Jordan effect on stratospheric growth in the NBA.
I can see the same happening with women’s soccer. It just takes the right investment and marketing and social media buzz to become something special. They haven’t quite figured that out yet.
I understand that FSG doesn’t want to throw money into a pit. But there will be a time where women’s club soccer explodes in popularity, and I think we’re on the cusp.
I think we have stepped over the cusp and are moving away from the edge of obsurity. Take a look at the rise in support, but also media coverage for the Lionesses and in Australia the Matildas have been on a similar rise in terms of media exposure and coverage. But also look at the women’s Super League, and how often they are having games moved to play in the men’s stadium.
Arsenal women play about 5 games each year at the Emerates due to the demand for tickets. Spurs and Chelsea similarly play a number of games at Tottenham Stadium and Stamford Bridge. Who would have predicted that 10 years ago?
The WNBA is far more popular than five years ago, but it is still a money pit - losing $50M on $200M revenue. The Caitlin Clark is nowhere close to the Michael Jordan effect, because pre-Jordan the NBA had already become a profitable business. A better comparison might actually be Larry Bird, who was pivotal in getting the NBA a higher profile national TV deal. I don’t think FSG would be rushing to pour money into the WNBA right now either.
For women’s footy, I think there will be an era of steady growth. My guess is that LFC will be positioned to build along with that growth, but winning the women’s CL is worth just 2M Euros - spending will align with that number.
It doesn’t help the women’s game in that the biggest story of the World cup was the unrelenting story of the “sexual assault” kiss. BTW, I put the “sexual assault” in quotes because it imo trivializes what actual sexual assault victims go through. They could have surely worded it better, while still coming down hard on the guy for his actions.
The second biggest story on the WNBA are the purple dildo’s, and is the biggest story when Clark is injured. The league would be how much underwater without Clark? On the flip side, purple dildo sales are skyrocketing.
Subsidizing sports is ok, as long as there is a long game where you eventually see light at the end of the tunnel. I don’t see it in either sport, and it’s quite pathetic when you see the financial health of the league (WNBA and to lesser extent football) being dismissed by players thinking you need to pay them what they worth.
Liverpool (and other elite clubs) could of quite easily started adding a team once the league was successful and barely be behind, however on the other hand, some clubs would not be in the position to sell their woman’s side for a ridiculously overvalued amount in order to pad their books.
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Years ago I remember watching a women’s football game over here with some friends. I was laughing about the standard of the play, and in particular I was laughing at the goalie. As I got to know a couple of newbies in the group, it turned out that one of them was the goalie for a college team. I thought I was hilarious and right, and she looked like she wanted to batter me. Probably could have ![]()
I’m not a fan of women’s football by any stretch, but good luck to them.
I’d be in favor of FSG putting some money towards making the Liverpool women’s team top tier since they are wearing the Liverpool name.
As for the basketball, the WNBA, I have watched a few games since my daughter is into it. Again, not a fan particularly, but I am a fan of some rare daddy/daughter time (she’s 22 today, and who knows how many games we will watch before she is fully out and living her life?)
Our local team is the Indy Fever, and Caitlin Clark is the big star who is helping to raise the profile of the women’s game.
I watched some of the Bill Simmons Celtics Documentary series on HBO and was absolutely stunned to hear what they were saying about the state of the league in that era. They were taking about play off games that weren’t even televised. The Celtics didnt even have their own training facilities but trained in some school’s gym.
ive got a lot to say on womens football and where it stands in todays game, why its critical that clubs invest and the importance in growing the ‘brand’, the quality of the game and many other points…‘the kiss’ at that world cup wasnt trivial and why its symbolism is important to make a big deal about, no she didnt get raped…but thats not the point…
but i cant be bothered…im tired of pushing back…tired of reading old men scoff at young women trying thier best and working hard to improve every metric of the game, whilst also supporting the mens game…
Genuine question, not stirring.
But “critical”?? For the women’s sport or the club?
I struggle to see why, for example, it’d be “critical” for Liverpool FC to invest in the women’s game.
Maybe we shouldn’t compare mens and women’s football. Instead of the usual “under tens” would beat them, look on the games as different. Like tennis.Golf.
Don’t judge or benchmark against the mens game.
my daughter loves her football…
loves Liverpool, posters on the wall etc etc, wakes up to watch the game, yada yada yada…has the mens names on the jerseys, not the womens…
my passion for LFC has no doubt influenced that decision…
of the girls she plays with at her club theres about 2 LFC fans, the rest are arsenal and chelsea fans becuase they can associate with the womens teams…
supporting 2 clubs is not a budgetry option for most people, im gonna guess about 1 3rd or more new footballers in australia are female (pure guess)…
thats alot of coin left on the table for the sake of signing a few 1m pound players
whats the upside of signing a 5 million dollar young male youth prospect - generally speaking you might move him on for 20 plus after a few years of academy training…
whats the upside of breaking the womens transfer record 4 times?.. arsenal womens as mentioned before are filling emirates a few times a year, names on shirts, families tied to the club…
i promised myself i wouldnt get into this as ive got alot to do, but thats in pure financial terms of memberships and jerseys sold, affecting the mens team as well…
then you have the social obligations of football at grass roots level…
Never really watched women’s football but ignoring the financial part of things, do you think their standard of play is high? I mean the men’s game partly why its so popular is because of its ability to raise the adrenaline, the tackles, the aggression and the quick plays, passing that is out of the world sometimes and scoring beautiful goals…that all contributed to why fans are so into it. But I have hardly watched a women’s game live or even on TV so not sure how it is nowadays.
And coming to the financial side, while the WNBA has made so much strides, it is just so far behind NBA and more importantly it is nowhere being profitable as a league yet and not sure it is going to be anytime soon even with the women just taking a small fraction of the league’s revenue, it still cannot turn profitable. But well as a neutral, having more attention to women’s sports is always a plus.
Being banned from playing for about 50 years won’t have helped it. When you consider that it’s probably the level you’d expect it. We are yet to see even one generation come through from this renaissance in it.
I can take it or leave it, I do watch the international matches mind and some of the quality especially in the more developed sides has been good. However I totally understand representation and it’s not just some “woke nonsense” as some cretins would like to put it. I don’t think the goal keeping is much above amateur level but then perhaps that needs to be adapted in some way and someone will come along who does. Much like the men’s games, no one is on here who can tell us what it seemed like in the 30s.
I think one plus, is that the women’s game now sees alot more diverse representation and a chance to start on the right level. I see alot more players from different regions of the world getting to play for big clubs even at this early stage of the women’s game. I think the men games in their early stages wouldn’t have these due to various reasons and conditions then. In fact one of Singapore women players got all the way to play for Dortmund and this is good as more exposure to players and games globally, the standard can improve.